Who's Had More Champions, Mexico Or Puerto Rico

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  1. rluevano

    rluevano El Gato De Culiacan Full Member

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    I have to agree with you, even if I am Mexican. The arguments never end up getting anywhere, and people have to start rationalizing everything to themselves to support their argument.
     
  2. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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    BTW, just for fun:

    Mexico = 108 champions
    http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...orld_Champions

    Puerto Rico = 40 champions
    http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...orld_Champions

    United States = 425 champions
    http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Category:American_World_Champions&until=Kenty,+Hilmer


    Of course keep in mind:

    POPULATION
    Mexico: 108,700,891 (July 2007 est.)
    PR: 3,944,259 (July 2007 est.)
    US: 301,139,947 (July 2007 est.)

    So that means that:
    In Mexico, 1 out of every 1,006,489 citizens would be world champs
    In PR, 1 out of every 98,606 would be world champs
    In the US, 1 out of every 708,564 would be world champs
     
  3. YOUNG*LORD

    YOUNG*LORD Carlosv1968 is your daddy Full Member

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    Mexico had more champions overall...Puerto Rico has more Champions per capita.
     
  4. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    :good
     
  5. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Small island but with big economic advantage over all latin countries.
    This is a big factor to take into account. Most kids in Latin America
    have to survive in big economical crissis.
     
  6. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Economic advantage is a huge factor here.
     
  7. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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  8. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    PR is a small island, yet have too far many champs. Although there are more mexican champs and mexican fighters overall
     
  9. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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    Those would be AMERICANS.
     
  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Only when it's "Covinient" ;)
     
  11. willnav

    willnav New Member Full Member

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    PR- 56

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Puerto_Rican_boxing_world_champions

    "In Puerto Rico boxing is considered one of the major sports in the island, having produced more amateur and professional world champions than any other sport in its history. Puerto Rico is located in the third place for most boxing world champions per country in the world and is the only country to have champions in all of the current divisions. February 9, 2008 marked the first time that boxers from Puerto Rico had held three of the four major welterweights titles (WBA, IBF and WBO) when Carlos Quintana defeated Paul Williams to join Miguel Cotto and Kermit Cintron as champions in the division."
     
  12. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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    This is great. A question is raised -- who's had more champs, Mexico or PR?

    We should all know it's a question that's gonna lead to some unfounded and knuckleheaded nationalism, as though the character of a place can be quantified by the number of champions it has produced.

    The adult response to such a question is, who cares? But I played along and came up with some stats: Mexico has produced more champs than Puerto Rico, but it also has a much, much bigger population. Puerto Rico has produced a more champs per-captia than Mexico -- and again, there is a mathematical advatage thre for Puerto Rico. The small a country, the more eaqch champ boosts the per-capita number.

    So what we have is a statistical wash. Larger Mexico has produced more, but smaller Puerto Rico has a favorable concentration.

    But now people are getting into economic factors.

    How much can we splice and dice this to come up with the answer everybody wants? The truth is that all of this is trivia and nothing more. Each country, each place, each people, each geography, each color, each language -- all produce proud champions, all produce figures who elevate us as humans. Because that's what it comes down to -- you can try and divide humanity along the superficial lines I've drawn in the previsous sentance, but you will still come up with one figure. HUMANS.

    So let's acknowledge that all this is fun. All of this is diverting. All of this makes for lively debate. But NONE of it matters. And that's not me talking. That's the sameness of our genetics.
     
  13. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I said that PR has a big economy advantage over other latin american countries I am not talking over USA.
     
  14. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I Believe that If Mexico had the same economy as in PR, Mexico would
    have more champions per capita than PR
     
  15. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Mexico






    but...This whole debate is dumb. Puerto Rico deserves major props for producing as much as they do per capita. No one counts the PR-American's into the counts of champions. Only the 4 million from the Island count and its great that PR can be as productive for this sport.


    Mexico is a powerhouse for boxing, 103 million people.