Whos is better? Ottkes 21 defences or Hopkins 20 defences?

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  1. Jimbob

    Jimbob Active Member Full Member

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    Hopkins lost to Taylor and Calzaghe when he was in his 40's for Christ sake, and even then the decisions were debatable. Prime Hopkins (from around '95 to '02) would have comfortably beat these two in my opinion.
     
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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lets not talk silly now. If Hopkins thought he could have beaten Calzaghe, he would have fought him instead of backing out.
    But lets stick to the subject at hand, which is Ottkes resume compared to Hopkins, and whos is better
     
    bailey, Oct 7, 2010
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Garbage when undefeated unified champ, 21 defences and beats 2 reigning champs, 2 former world champs, 2 European champs and 3 future world champs, plus other world rated fighters.
    How very ignorant of you
     
    bailey, Oct 7, 2010
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  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree, those guys being naturally bigger would most likely have beaten Trinidad and Oscar, and are better victories, but that also cements the idea that Ottke has a better resume, beating better fighters than the 3 you mentioned, who were also naturally bigger men.

    Good post :good
     
    bailey, Oct 7, 2010
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  5. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    NO COMPARISON!
    Like comparing Calzaghe's weak resume to BHOP's, or Froch to Roy Jones, Jr.
     
    The_President, Oct 7, 2010
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  6. Jimbob

    Jimbob Active Member Full Member

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    Hopkins resume is better because he beat better fighters in a more convincing manner, simple.

    You see the thing is, most boxing fans base their opinions on what they see going on in the ring, not by looking up stats on boxrec.
     
    Jimbob, Oct 7, 2010
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  7. UndisputedChamp

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    Great discussion guys! Next up is Sven "THE PHANTOM" Otkke vs Joe Schmo Calzaghe who wins??
     
    UndisputedChamp, Oct 7, 2010
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  8. Rudyard

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    :rofl Bailey has been put in his place again!
     
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  9. bailey

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    Wrong. Ottke beat 3 future world champs. 2 reigning world champs, 2 former world champs and 2 European champs. Except for one all of the others were established in the same weight division

    Of course Hopkins was more convincing, he was always the naturally bigger fighter
    Joe wins, no doubt, proven by likely by common opponents. But this isnt about who would win dummy, its about whos resume is most impressive
    :lol:. What a joke you are.
    When you cant even debate the point.
    I have used facts to show proof that Ottke was beating future champs who werent smaller fighters :deal
     
    bailey, Oct 7, 2010
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  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rudyard;
    Jimbob;
    The_President;
    Read below dummies :deal
    Correct.
    Now read on
    Hopefully you can get that through your deluded brains
     
    bailey, Oct 7, 2010
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  11. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Just because you type long winded post in which you really dont even explain your points doesnt equate to having a discussion! :lol:

    If you can read, then you'll see where I've answered your dumbass question!
     
    Rudyard, Oct 7, 2010
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  12. HEADBANGER

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    in summary, you are an ignorant, narrow minded disgrace who has never watched an ottke fight in your life :lol:

    HBO puppetts like you repulse me :dead:dead:dead
     
    HEADBANGER, Oct 7, 2010
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  13. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Again ****boy! Insults aint gonna help your agrument! Try again!:good
     
    Rudyard, Oct 7, 2010
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  14. HEADBANGER

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    :dead:dead:dead:dead:dead:dead:dead:dead:dead
     
    HEADBANGER, Oct 7, 2010
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  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    Over analyzed at it's best as usual... Seems the lot of you think a title defense has to be against an ATG to matter. They don't. Truth is, both Ottke and Hopkins title defense streaks are impressive. It's not easy to do that unless you are very talented. That said, both guys did have a lot of soft touches. But Ottke was on the receiveing end of some very dubious decisions.
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Oct 7, 2010
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