Whos is better? Ottkes 21 defences or Hopkins 20 defences?

Man, I'm not trying to hear this bull**** Bailey...Your agenda is transparent! Your agenda is clear as day...Nobody is here trying to say that Hopkins had a stellar MW defense but Hopkins middle weight reign is miles ahead of Sven...Its just you choose to tear down American fighters to build up these overrated euro fighters!

Sven had several contreversy decisions on his resume and you consider that great??? Get the **** out of here with that non-sense.
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what needs to be assessed? everything is their in black and white in the original post of this threads. its all fact. the names are there for everybody to see with a magnificent assessment by elite poster next to each defence :deal

their seems very little difference between the resumes, yet one gets praised to high heavens on esb by delusional ring magazine / hbo puppetts and the other fighter is villainised and has his resume tarnished by ignorant, narrow minded esb posters :deal

 

If you remember correctly you were in agreement with me when you debated with Rudyard over Martinez-Williams on their training camps.

In fact, here it is:

 

the proof is all in the result of the fight you pudding

you have clearly illustrated that you do not know how to assess a fight accurately when predicting its conclusion :deal

 

One of Hopkins' defences was terrible.










He got 18 years. :mj

 

Hopkins.

 

apparently these hbo puppetts were demanding that hopkins took on robert allen for a 4th time to prove his greatness

 

let me assure you, jpabs bad days far outweigh his good days :yep

 

Can only say Hopkins as he was clearly the best MW , where as Sven lost many fights but got the decisions.

 

so now I'm stupid because I'm calling you out on your bull****? Natural weight my ass...These so called blown up fighters earned their spots..No matter how you spin it Hopkins reign is miles ahead of Sven.