whos legacy is greater RJJ or Hopkins??

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  1. pjo479

    pjo479 brooklyn brawler Full Member

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    i think the answer is clear there are no arguments as to who has a better legacy . anyone who thinks jones has a better legacy is just saying it to be an *******... jones is a ***** who likes to call alot of people out but never fight them .... i dont ever remember hopkins ducking anyone :good
     
  2. Marnoff

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    Poetic.
     
  3. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is one of the big reasons I rank him highly.
     
  4. pjo479

    pjo479 brooklyn brawler Full Member

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    jones hopkins will never happen and sweet pea jones beat hopkins 13 yrs ago in a not so spectacular fight . jones gets brutally beat if he signs this fight . jones is a wash up:good
     
  5. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Well RJ will be known as the more exciting and better fighter indeed. While B-Hop will be known with the better resume.
     
  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ya, that guy's post had a lot of empty points, but the last two were decent.
     
  7. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First of all, I don't have him number one at Light Heavyweight and have never seen him at Super Middleweight. Secondly, I don't have him top ten. Third, I've felt he was a special and tremendous fighter before tonight, but this certainly adds to it.
     
  8. pjo479

    pjo479 brooklyn brawler Full Member

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    i personally would rather see jones retire before he winds up like his buddy g mac and that's no diss its just concern because if jones fights any young top fighter today and i mean ranked 1 or 2 or any belt holder he may just wind up knocked out for good... as far as hopkins he too should retire he has nothing left to prove and them fighting each other only results in a bhop win and fans saying jones is washed up .... there is a reason they never fought again because jpnes got destroyed 2 times by tarver and johnson the same 2 men hopkins wrecked:good
     
  9. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. Hopkins doesn't have two one-punch KO defeats on his record, either.

    Jones is the better athlete, Hopkins the better fighter, at least in terms of legacy
     
  10. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    kg, we all know I love Roy....but if we are talking legacy, we have to look at the WHOLE career. Not just the good times.

    Roy held on too long....he isnt the same fighter he once was and that will be part of what he will leave behind.

    Hop on the other hand stayed dominant and at the top of the game until the end. This has to be accounted for.
     
  11. Sister Sledge

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    Jones will always be remembered as a superior athlete because that is what he was. A superior athlete with great reflexes and power that came from blinding speed. He also had vast amatuer experience. Even though Jones and B-Hop had almost the same amount of pro fights coming in, Jones had a lot more experience, so he was more polished. B-Hop doesn't even fight the same way that he did back then. He may be more cautous, but his style is much more effective. Jones style has never changed. He's never learned how to use the jab on a consistant basis to control a fight. He's never learned to hold when he needs a break. He still tries to outspeed his opponents. He's the same fighter he was when he started his career and has never learned to adjust to his declining hand speed and stamina. Unfortunately, RJJ is small for a Light Heavy, so without the hand and foot speed, Roy won't be as effective as he was before. B-Hop never really relied on speed. He was always dirty, but he has also become wiley, and because he has fought so many different styles of fighter, he has more experience than Jones. Just imagine if these guys had fought in the late 70's and early 80's. There were guys like Victor Galindez, Saad Muhamed, Spinks, Marvin Johnson, Yacqui Lopez, Dwight Braxton. I think a fighter like Hopkins would have done better than Jones in this era because he was the better overall fighter.
     
  12. fightking12

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  13. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Pure BS RJJ would have never had the career he had if he wasn't as skilled as he was he would have turned out like Judah instead who is really great athlete but not a Great fighter but still good. Father Time catches him so now all of sudden he wasn't that good, man you people are something else.
     
  14. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins or Jones?


    Veeeery close. Right now, I think Jones is greater by a hair. Give Bernard one more good win and he'll pass Jones in achievements. However, Jones apparently looked good in his last fight and who knows what will happen to him in the future. But yeah, right now I think Jones is greater than Hopkins.
     
  15. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After tonight it is very, very close. Bernard has narrowed the gap dramatically. Right now Ive got Roy ahead by a little, but another big win by Hopkins (against a Zsolt erdei/Chad Dawson type fighter) would put him ahead.

    Don't know if Nard his it in him anymore, though. He really looked old tonight.

    And btw Hopkins is not linear champ at 175, just like Jones never was.