Who's more famous , GSP or Gretzky ?

Man, the numbers don't lie. Theres BILLIONS generated from those stupid sports as you say. But wait, it's that easy to "shoot a ****in ball in a net, hit a ball with a bat or throw a puck in a net"??? Why arent you making
MILLIONS a year then doing those easy things buddy? You really think theres more talent in mma and fighting than being an elite athlete in another sport? How ignorant and arrogant can an mma fan be FFS?

MMA and UFC is, always has been, and will continue to be merely a fringe sport, reserved for the back pages of the sports section in and country, or at the end of a television sports broadcast, unless it's a special just shown for mma alone. Sure, YOU may love it, and be so blind to think that you constitute a statistically significant portion of the world population, but dream on. UFC fighters make thousands and thousands of dollars. Those stupid sports players make MILLIONS, and that's just the ones that arent elite. The top players make 10's and even 100's of millions of dollars. Where does this money come from?

Beckham (or whatever) is more popular world wide than GSP I guarantee. Theres a huge rugby player in Australia tyhat I can't even remember his name, but I bet he's more well known than GSP. STOP LIVING IN A VACUUM MMA FANS, AND ACCEPT THAT YOUR MILLIONS OF FANS CAN'T COMPARE TO THE 100'S OF MILLIONS AND EVEN BILLIONS OF FANS FOLLOWING THE MAJOR SPORTS.

Europe, most likely soccer is the biggest, but even cricket there woul;d be bigger than mma. Japan, baseball. China...I dunno, checkers? MMA however, might be popular in developing countries because you dont need anything top just start beating someone up, but other sports you do. That being said, Soccer is guaranteed the most popular sport on the planet. All you need is something to kick around. But there are infinite more kids playing hockey than all fighters in mma combined. And Im talking about the 6-12 age group, not all people that lace up skates. Maybe we should start this thread on whatever there is in the future, in like 50 years, and see who is remembered!

 

First of all, LEARN TO ****IN READ. Just tell where did I mention football(soccer) in my previous post ?

Here is the list of the top 10 sport in the world....no Ice hockey in sight !
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_popular_sport_in_the_world

Of all the major sport league the only 2 that cracked the top 10 is BASEBALL and BASKETBALL

Why I am not shooting a puck in a net for 5 million a year ? Honestly ? Because it's simply PATHETIC.

A numbnuts like yourself prolly never heard of the expression "bread and circus"...this is what professional sport is all about, bread and circus.

And you a perfect exemple of how ****in stupid north american people are.
You honestly think China and India give a **** about hockey ? Baseball ? Basketball(maybe chinese) ? Football ?

Since when did we keep track of sport sucess by the amount of money it makes ? Over how many poeple are actually listening to it ?

Are you reallly stupid to the point of believing Russian tune in for NHL game ? That any european watch MLB ? Dude go back in YOUR ****in bubble called NORTH AMERICA (approx 370 000 000 people...not couting Mexico)

and FYI I ****IN SAID GRETZKY IS MORE POPULAR THEN GSP.

There you go ignorant ******** !!!

 

macp1
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wow, ya im in ontario now. does that mean thats where ive lived all my life? lol. get real dummy. and the previous poster, gimme a break. keep living in your bubble thinking ufc and mma is more popular than the multi billion dollar sports i mentioned. you and your handful of fight fans can keep watching grown roll around on the ground in tights 69'ing each other for a few thousand dollars a few times a year, while the rest of the world watches elite athletes perform their craft and make billions.

This argument is such a joke and ridiculous for me even to be commenting on. Im probably even involved because im bored.

Compared to NBA, NFL, NHL, etc, MMA is IRRELEVANT. if there was no mma tomorrow, you would be sad, and a few thousand of your friends. if any of the major north american sports or european sports suddenly ceased to be, it would be on the level of a major breakdown in our society. Believe it. If theres suddenly billions of dollars lost from revenues spouting from endorsements, games, etc, what dya think would happen to the economy. Those sports fuel our society, for good or bad. MMA is cool to watch, thats the jist of it.

 

I'm just saying, your street where 10 out of 10 people know Gretzky well are the streets of Ontario. That matters a lot.

Also, I am delighted that you think I have thousands of friends but I really don't. Also, do you think more people watch the NBA or EPL?

Also, I am reasonably sure you have an incorrect view regarding the role of professional sports in the economy.

Also, also.

 

I've put you name on the list for a brain transplant that's prolly the only way for you to understand this argument.

The question was is GSP more popular then Greztky....here in North america, it's not even a question, no he isn't. But can you really say that for everywhere else in the world ? Youve been everywhere in the world ? Please just stfu dude...you are embarassing yourself !

But to say that the NBA, MBL, NHL, NFL, MSL(Not the actual sport, just THOSE stupid league\association) are more popular then MMA its ****in plain stupid dude. You won the ****** award for the 20th century.... and to think that professional sport has such a huge impact on our society is completly stupid. Bread and circus dude, bread and circus !

This is why I said you are the perfect exemple of how american(Canadian included) are most of the time deluded by there own importance. North american isn't the center of the universe you ****in moron !

Elite please don't make me laugh....if you train a ****** long enough I'm pretty sure he can be better then ****in Crosby...the people you seems to look up too are most of the time complete degenerate that can't tell there left feet from the right...once again, you are really not helping yourself.

Professional athlete are, most of the time, doing that because they can't do better !

 

never heard of gretzky.

 

atsch

Hockey is a nothing sport on the world stage, martial arts is in every country of the world. Gretzky IS probably more famous than GSP but put this in perspective, he is the greatest player ever in that sport and in hockey you have to be the the GREATEST to eclipse GSP on the WORLD STAGE. North America IS NOT the world dude. Ice hockey is not even reported in most countries.

 

Macp1 great posts. Its actually laughable that we're comparing this and GSPs one of my favorite fighters.

 

I thought you'd say exactly that, Chimba. It's a joke this thread has reached almost 100 replies of debate. Shows how ignorant and stubborn some people are :verysad

 

I'll bet GSP would say "Gretzky" and Gretzky would say "who?" Someone needs to ask him in an interview.

 

Hockey is a fringe sport in about 80% of the world. MMA has acclompished alot of recognition in it's short life span.

 

I wouldnt go that far.

 

Of course Beckham is more popular than GSP, he's sport is actually popular on a global scale not just one part of the world like ice hockey. There's a huge rugby league player more popular than GSP, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HIS NAMEatsch Woah he must be really famous, trust me there is NO rugby league player more well known than GSP or half the UFC roster for that matter.

Even cricket would be bigger than MMA? Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world, but I bet you couldn't tell me the greatest player to ever play that sport. That's because in North America you live in your own little world, if someone is famous there then the whole world must know who they are right? WRONG! How many people in Asia do you think have heard of Gretzky??

Like I said in an earlier post, Gretzky is probably more famous than GSP, but he happens to be the best the sport has ever produced. I don't think there will ever be another hockey player who will be as famous as the top MMA fighter's.

 

Hard to say. Certainly when Bobby Orr was on top he was close to Gretzky in fame, but that's going back to the late 60's early 70's. Sidney Crosby might not be as far off as one thinks.

You have to keep a few things in mind, one is that the UFC is primarly a North American sport regardless of what posters here think. I would hazard a guess that about 70-75% of the revenues of the UFC are north american based. Canada's a huge UFC market which is why Montreal has hosted the UFC 4 times, Vancouver once, and probably the biggest UFC event on record, may very well be the one in April in Toronto.

So given that where hockey and UFC stand in relation to each other will give you some idea of the popularity of the sport. Certainly in Canada hockey's still way ahead of UFC, it's not even that close. There are 6 tearms here each playing 82 games, 41 of which are home games to about 15K per game. That's about 4 Million people going to the games and there's some TV revenue too, hell even PPV revenue in areas such as Vancouver.

Meanwhile the UFC is on cloud nine because it sold out 23,000 seats in Montreal this event. So let's say over the course of the year they get on the high side 200,000 people paying to see their events in person. And let's say they have 8 events a year and they get a million per watching it. That's about 8,200,000 who paid to watch a UFC event.

Back to hockey. The Canadian market is about 4 million in attendence, and the US market having 24 teams rather than 6 teams is about 14 million, on the very low side let's say 10M. So 10M in the US watch the game live and 4 million in Canada watch it live that's 14 million views, excluding tv. The UFC has about 200K views excluding TV. As mentioned the UFC tv audience is likely about 8 million a year.

So given that hockey is about twice as big as the UFC in North American and the UFC would fold in a New York minute without the North American market, one could make a decent arguement that the top NHL stars are indeed as popular as GSP. Also keep in mind some of the NHL starts such as Ovechkin are huge, huge stars in their country of origin, which in this case is Russia, and they also get huge Olympic exposure.

So I wouldn't under estimate the popularity of hockey, and if salary itself is any indication, well I doubt GSP makes anywhere near what Ovechkin or Crosby get paid.

one needs to put MMA in perspective. Pride went bankrupt as has almost every other MMA business prior to the UFC making it big, so I don't think MMA is as big as many would like to believe it is.