Who's more talented and skilled overall Fury or Usyk ?

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Who's more talented and skilled overall

  1. Fury

  2. Usyk

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  1. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You are joking right?

    Fury is the most skilled heavyweight ever watch his performance over wlad and chisora the dude is amazing to watch
     
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    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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  3. Stefz

    Stefz Member Full Member

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    I guess you have never seen the power that gassiev is packing. Chisora is a sitting plodding duck.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Why would I be joking?

    I have watched his performances against Wlad and Chisora. Have you ever watched Usyk?
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Fury genuinely doesn't make the top ten most skilled heavyweights ever.

    He's just big, if he was 6'4 he'd be an average contender
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    That's not the question, the question is who is more talented and skilled, and that would be Usyk.

    Of course he's fighting smaller guys, because they're Cruiserweights, not Heavyweights. Again irrelevant.

    As far as power goes, Briedis has KO'd Charr a Heavyweight cold. Gassiev is one of the hardest P4P fihters in the sport. Glowacki dropped Cunningham far more times than Fury did, and didn't have to mug, maul and forearm him in the face to do it.. Something Fury should have been DQ'd for. Bellew KO'd Haye a Heavyweight twice. Huck rocked Povetkin to the core countless times. Hunter thus far as stopped every Heavyweight he's shared the ring with. So aside from Wlad, the rest of his opponents are up for debate. Definitely for the Cruiserweight division, they're the most powerful punchers of the lot.

    No one Fury has faced is anywhere close to the skill level of Usyk's opponents. The only thing they have going for them is size. "These guys wing shots, get sloppy, fall over themselves," Sounds like every Heavyweight Fury has faced aside from Wlad, and maybe Cunningham (a CW).

    Have you ever watched any of them fight? Because that assessment couldn't be more inaccurate. Gassiev, Briedis, Mchunu, Hunter and Bellew are all highly skilled, composed, accurate fighters, with very high ring IQ's. The only two that fit that description might be Glowacki and Huck, and even they are more skilled than Wilder and Chisora.

    Now onto Wlad. I love Wlad, he's been one of my favorite fighters from the last two decades. But based solely on skillset. He controls range very well, has a hell of a jab, an amazing left hook and amazing straight right. But that's against fighters who come to him, he's a backfoot counter puncher and a one two, sometimes 3 artist. But like with Marquez vs. Mayweather, two backfoot counter punchers when H2H, the faster, rangier guy usually takes it, especially when coming forward is unnatural to both. That is all.
     
  7. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes i have Usyk is extremely talented one of my fav fighters but Fury is naturally more gifted

    Has Uysk ever beaten a top elite fighter with just a jab and stopped them?
     
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  8. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Dubois and the Charlos.

    Usyk and Tyson have earned their “Hype” ***** boy.
     
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  9. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson is literally all of the things you just said about Usyk.
     
  10. Boxingfan200

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    love usyk but he did struggle with tony bellow for like 3 rounds... so I gonna lean towards fury just based on my eyes .
     
  11. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson has average stamina, good footwork, fast hands, awkward, feinting, mental instability, no power, no chin.
    How is this the same as usyk?
     
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  12. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I call bull. Usyk beat two A+ fighters and 3 A fighters + his athleticism and stamina are unmatched. This guy can switch in a higher gear late in the fight. Tell me someone else who can do that, surely not tyson fury, who can only fight like running around the ring and throwing 20 punches a round with connecting 10. So there is no comparison with usyk possible
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    When exactly did Fury beat a top elite fighter with just a jab and stop them? He fought hyper defensively and scared against a fighter that usually fights scared even when he has nothing to be afraid of. That is the unadulterated reality.

    I do find it cute that you, one of the biggest Manny Pacquiao fanboys and Floyd Mayweather haters and site has ever seen, is now inexplicably the number one cheerleader for a guy who on his best night, is basically being a Floyd Mayweather impersonator. You have no shame.

    Now after the Otto Wallin fight, is there any doubt that Usyk is the more skilled of the two? This site would be apoplectic and in hysterics and invariably scream robbery if Usyk did what Tyson Fury did tonight.

    And as a side note, for about 6 rounds Otto was taking him to slick school, can you imagine what fellow southpaw Usyk, who's about 40 times faster than Otto, would do to him?
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    What this ^^^ guy said
     
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  15. Serge

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    I think the schooling Usyk gave Wlad in sparring during the later's preparation for the Fury fight not only softened Wlad up a lot but I think it also completely destroyed his confidence. Hence why Wlad turned up for the fight in body only.

    Usyk's Cossack Slickness obviously filled Wlad with apprehension about having to deal with Fury's Gypsy Slickness and it totally messed with Wlad's head. He was completely mentally spent by the time it came to fight night.
     
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