Who's more technical: Willy Pep or Ricardo Lopez?

Explain a bit further...

 

Lopez was a better offensive fighter, Pep was better on defense. But Lopez was huge for his weight class, so it's not really fair since Pep was average or small. Pep had to compete on an even playing field and Lopez didn't.

 

They were both boxing 101, but Ricardo would commit to a punch.

 

7-2 Pep? :yikes

You have to have classic fighter bias to vote for Willie Pep. No disrespect to him and what he accomplished during his era over 50 years ago.. he was a genius for the time. But the master boxers of recent times like Ricardo Lopez and Pernell Whitaker were twice the technicians that Pep was and I'm probably being too nice.

 

The human body has not grown any new appendages and the human brain has not evolved, so I fail to see why tactics employed in the art of hitting and not being hit, could be considered drastically superior or inferior based simply on the era that the boxer who employs them hails from.

 

Define technical.

 

Do you mean textbook technique? If so Pep should not have a single vote. That doesn't mean he wasn't as good or better(not sure in a head to head sense) but as technical? Not at all, it wasn't his style.

 

well thats the thing.
do you think willie pep who is regurly put into p4p lists.

or ricardo who sadly didnt fight enough tough contenders.

technical usually means using skills developed by boxing to use agains thi opponant. and that why i would give it to lopez. he had fantastically striaght punches great left hook great movment and a good defence.

while pep relied on being a naturally gifted defenive artist. pep also did have much technique to his punches his jab was great and his right hand was nice and snappy but it wasnt a cross more of a right jab. left hook was there but barely used it.

lopez for me

 

Ricardo Lopez. He was not very fast for his weight, and still so very, very good.

 

you caught me red handed as i voted for pep and i have bias towards the "invincible" aura or those late greats.

but there two things that can also factored with finding who was more technical.

1. ring general ship-

im no boxer, but have had the pleasure to talk to boxing experts and coaches and to be absolutely at home in the ring is a skill that takes a long time. there where natural fighters like benitez that where just naturally slippery to the point that you could never force the ropes on them. but there so much "technical" aspects towards ring generalship including footwork, faints, reading faints, changing directions, timing punches, understanding angles, negotiating space, when to punch...... to get to my drawn out point willie pep was possibly the greatest "ring general" of all time and he did it against guys like manuel ortiz and albert wright.

2. opposition-

ricardo lopez was great. but he never had the chance to go up against a fellow superstar to show his greatness exept possibly rosendo alverez who some thought won their first fight and loss the rematch by split decision. it would have been interesting to see how technical ricardo could have fought against a equally great fighter... like when manuel ortiz fought willie pep. there is a great chance that he would dominate with text book precision:good !! but it just never was able to happen:think .

maybe with more research i would vote lopez, but from what i know willie pep was the real deal too. bassilio who fought 4 great fighter including the heavily regarded greatest fighter sugar ray robinson said that willie pep was the greatest fighter of all time.

 

:think really i think thats a key charecteristic of his. maybe not a swarmer in the sense but was truely a boxer who could happen to punch as well. he had fast hands and usually stayed from the oustside. there maybe wasnt alot of super quick movement of bobbing in and out but had fast hands.......actually are joking the guy was quick as anything:huh

 

I do not rate his handspeed as an advantage for him -- usually opponents were faster in the fights I've seen of him, yet he controlled center ring. Do not forget he fought at minimumweight.

The fact that he could dominate center ring without a speed advantage speaks for his technical prowess and timing.

 

better technique-Ricardo Lopez
Better fighter-Willie Pep