Whos PAC supporter is the best poster on ESB???

Morrissey · Oct 9, 2007

divac said:

Morrissey said:

I'm with you on this one......

......I thought that MAB would want to fight at a slow and conservative pace to conserve energy for the later rounds.

This fight was fought at nowhere near the pace that Marco fought JMM. You would think that he would have had quite a bit left to finish at the pace that they fough in.

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BUT he did not spend those energies in the later rounds. He was on his shells for almost every minute of the fight. My brother and I thought the same thing, but MAB had another idea in mind, unfortunately.
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BoppaZoo · Oct 9, 2007

Im a huge Pac fan and i dont suck on his nuts. then again im not a Phillipino either.

But yeah id say right now Manny is my second favourite guy behind Michael Katsidis.

Then i also follow guys like
Juan Diaz
Miguel Cotto
Kermit Cintron
Danny Green
Paul Briggs
David Tua
Injin Chi ( now retired which is a shame)
Joe Calzaghe
Thats just to name a few.

BoppaZoo · Oct 9, 2007

Black said:

WErd.
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whats weird about that.

I like keeping my eye on alot of different fighters. Not just a few then i wouldnt know stuff all about boxing.

If you paid any attention to my fighters named you would notice one thing about all of the ones i like.

There excitement machines which is what i love. I hate the PBF's of the world you tip toe around and throw a few jabs and run etc.

I like guys that give you what you pay for.

BoppaZoo · Oct 9, 2007

Black said:

Bro, I meant word, not weird.. you know as in im agreeing with you...

I really like your list of fighters. :good
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So do i, so do i. I miss Hagler and Hearns. Can someone put there hand up to be the next Hagler or Hearns.

Anybody.:yep :thumbsup

Morrissey · Oct 10, 2007

divac said:

Morrissey said:

I'm with you on this one......

......I thought that MAB would want to fight at a slow and conservative pace to conserve energy for the later rounds.

This fight was fought at nowhere near the pace that Marco fought JMM. You would think that he would have had quite a bit left to finish at the pace that they fough in.

I would have never thought that MAB would want to just cross the finish line in a fight he knew he was losing, especially knowing there was still some energy in the tank for him to spend.

Hey Morrissey, I had the fight even after 6 rounds, giving Marco rounds 1, 5, and 6, and the rest to Pac.
After the 6th Pac started to time and start hitting MAB alot more cleaner, and essentially, Barrera really stopped trying once this happened.
Its a pity MAB did'nt elect to lay it on the line in the late rounds once he knew he was well behind on the cards.

Out of curiousity, how did you score the fight?
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I had it 9-3 for Pac and I am being too kind for MAB with that score. MAB IMO won rounds 3,4 and one between 6 to 10.

The problem I had was with the early rounds becasue it seems MAB was being effective in neutralizing Pac's offense, and looks like he was on his way to a decision but then after round 6, it became apparent that he won't further up his attack mode, which only caused him to lose rounds after rounds.

If you look at it, it also resembled his fight with JMM. The early parts were very competitive, then the midrounds, his opponents showed aggresiveness, and he did not respond, and the latter rounds, it was clear who was winning the fight.
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dangerousity · Oct 10, 2007

Morrissey said:

divac said:

I had it 9-3 for Pac and I am being too kind for MAB with that score. MAB IMO won rounds 3,4 and one between 6 to 10.

The problem I had was with the early rounds becasue it seems MAB was being effective in neutralizing Pac's offense, and looks like he was on his way to a decision but then after round 6, it became apparent that he won't further up his attack mode, which only caused him to lose rounds after rounds.

If you look at it, it also resembled his fight with JMM. The early parts were very competitive, then the midrounds, his opponents showed aggresiveness, and he did not respond, and the latter rounds, it was clear who was winning the fight.
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I had it 12-0. The one round which most wanted to give to MAB is more out of kindness than anything else knowing it wont have much affect on the winner. Had the fight been close and that round sway the winner, people would not be giving it to MAB. The 5th for example could be said for MAB but Pac clearly landed more that round and came back towards the end landing a series of lefts to counter the beating he got from the ropes mid-round. The rest of the rounds MAB just didnt mount enough offense to win the round, Pac was landing more and cleaner aswell as being the aggresive one. If 2 fighters land the same amount of punches per round, equally as clean, the point should go to the aggressor. I believe effective aggresion is one of the criterias judges score on. MAB had none of that.
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Morrissey · Oct 10, 2007

dangerousity said:

Morrissey said:

I had it 12-0. The one round which most wanted to give to MAB is more out of kindness than anything else knowing it wont have much affect on the winner. Had the fight been close and that round sway the winner, people would not be giving it to MAB. The 5th for example could be said for MAB but Pac clearly landed more that round and came back towards the end landing a series of lefts to counter the beating he got from the ropes mid-round. The rest of the rounds MAB just didnt mount enough offense to win the round, Pac was landing more and cleaner aswell as being the aggresive one. If 2 fighters land the same amount of punches per round, equally as clean, the point should go to the aggressor. I believe effective aggresion is one of the criterias judges score on. MAB had none of that.
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I can understand you with that kind of score, since MAB practically fought just to avoid being KD. And I would not be surprised if other posters have similar scores.

I think that was MAB's mission even before the fight. Not to get entangled with Pac's punches. Oscar even commented that MAB respected PAc's power too much that he did not come out of his shell even if there were lots of good chances to attack him.

We can argue that that was the lamest stance of MAB for a fight in over 60 fights.
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1punch1nder · Oct 10, 2007

kg0208 said:

I only know the ones posting here....they are who I am referring to. The only other Filipino I know is marrying my younger sister in December and doesn't even know who Pacman is.....which I found odd, but to each his own right?
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your future brother-in-law is probably gay.

doknochrisan · Oct 10, 2007

1punch1nder said:

your future brother-in-law is probably gay.
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I was thinking the same thing...

kg0208 · Oct 10, 2007

1punch1nder said:

your future brother-in-law is probably gay.
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Doubtful....he is a doctor and doesn't care about sports, nor is he from the Phillipines. He simply doesn't care about Pacman or any other boxer.

Mind Reader · Oct 10, 2007

chimba said:

I know its me... but Im biased:yep :hi: Bang zoom.. badabing!!!:smoke
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You seem to be a level headed supporter.:good

divac · Oct 11, 2007

Morrissey said:

dangerousity said:

I can understand you with that kind of score, since MAB practically fought just to avoid being KD. And I would not be surprised if other posters have similar scores.

I think that was MAB's mission even before the fight. Not to get entangled with Pac's punches. Oscar even commented that MAB respected PAc's power too much that he did not come out of his shell even if there were lots of good chances to attack him.

We can argue that that was the lamest stance of MAB for a fight in over 60 fights.
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Funny that you quote DLH for MAB not coming out of his shell.....
......Barrera in a spanish newspaper was quoted as saying that his Mexican machismo came out too much and that he should'nt have gotten into as many exchanges as he did with Pacquiao! atsch
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theunderdog · Oct 11, 2007

divac said:

Morrissey said:

Funny that you quote DLH for MAB not coming out of his shell.....
......Barrera in a spanish newspaper was quoted as saying that his Mexican machismo came out too much and that he should'nt have gotten into as many exchanges as he did with Pacquiao! atsch
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he seriously said that? how many exchanges were there in the whole fight? five? damn
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nighthunter · Oct 11, 2007

Chimba for sure....

divac · Oct 11, 2007

theunderdog said:

divac said:

he seriously said that? how many exchanges were there in the whole fight? five? damn
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I read that quote in Monday's spanish newpaper titled "HOY":yep
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