whos paintjob, clinic, shutout, masterpiece was better

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by elmaldito, Jun 4, 2022.


who was more dominant

  1. devin haney

    14 vote(s)
    22.6%

  2. bivol

    48 vote(s)
    77.4%
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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Even though Bivol hasn't scored a stoppage in a long time now, Barrera was the last one, I always find him a joy to watch. He outboxes and outclasses you whilst being very busy, throwing a lot of shots, landing them at a high rate (clean accurate shots and is a combination counter puncher which is pretty rare) and he has what I think is a rather unique style and isn't at all boring. And unlike Haney who is a lot bigger and heavier than all these guys he's facing, Bivol, as I've explained before, is a weight class smaller than almost all the LHWs he's facing. He doesn't run or hold ever either.

    Obviously Clenelo is way better than Kambosos, was the then P4P #1, and is also one of the best defensive fighters in the game and way harder to catch clean
     
    Serge, Jun 4, 2022
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  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Look at the rbr, you got the link.. :lol:

    Give me my credit once you do and put me over you with the likes like you said you were going to do when you fraudulently beat me.:deal:
     
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  3. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Obviously Bivol`s was the better win but he was not as dominant v Canelo as Haney was against Kambosis.
     
    Noel857, Jun 5, 2022
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  4. Alfo1998

    Alfo1998 just an Italian guy Full Member

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    I'm really surprised by Haney performance and at the same time im disappointed by Kambosos tactics. I think that K has contributed to the boxing lesson by not even try to outpunches Haney, by engage with him not even once. Don't get me wrong, i believe that Haney is a great fighter, but im not convinced at all that he is somehow unbeatable. Anyway, how many right hand has Haney thrown? I sincerely find him a really boring fighter. Tonight he put on a great performance but he was limiting himself to not allow Kambosos get inside. Neve thrown multiple punches combination, never tried to hurt Kambosos. He just frustrated him. I dont know if when he has in front of him someone like Loma o Lopez that performance will be enough. I recognize his skill but again, one thing is Skill, another thing is bordom, it is a close border. You can be an high skilled fighter and at the same time put on a great show, like Shakur vs Valdez, or like almost all the Mayweather's fights.
     
    Alfo1998, Jun 5, 2022
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  5. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Bivol.

    For me he showed greater dexterity in his offense and counterpunched more effectively.

    That isn't to discredit Haney at all, he just lacks some offensive tools in his arsenal which I am sure he can gain in his career.
     
    Ilesey, Jun 5, 2022
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  6. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Nobody at 135 can beat shakur. Tank and haney better stay away.
     
    elmaldito, Jun 5, 2022
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  7. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    To stay ahead of a guy 3 steps and never get countered solid in 12 rounds is not easy man. Usually u make a couple mistakes. Kabosis tried. He ran into a solid jab.
     
    elmaldito, Jun 5, 2022
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  8. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Hahahahahahahaha
     
    elmaldito, Jun 5, 2022
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  9. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Two diff styles bivol and haney. Haney is using alot of feints and dips and poses and mixing up his leads turning the corner. Spinning him. Bivol moves in and out throwing high volume. Both have real good distance and range.
     
    elmaldito, Jun 5, 2022
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  10. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Two Diff styles of fighters. Clinching is a part of the game man. I can f someone up in the clinch. That kambosis fault and a weakness in his game.
     
    elmaldito, Jun 5, 2022
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  11. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Bivol landed the most impactful blows and took down a legend—-However I did give have Canelo winning at least 2 1/2 rounds unlike George
     
    Bustajay, Jun 5, 2022
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  12. Alfo1998

    Alfo1998 just an Italian guy Full Member

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    Yes for sure. Nothing but respect for Haney skills. Nontheless i still think he is a bit boring. On the other hand, Kambosos never took some real risks honestly. Maybe he was scared to be countered and may be knocked down. At this point the rematch is rreally a no sense. He never gave the idea to trouble Haney in whatever he was bringing to the table (not to much actually, he was trying to counterpunches the counter. Not a great game plan).
     
    Alfo1998, Jun 5, 2022
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  13. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Bivol.

    Clenelo 10X > Kambosos
     
    JOKER, Jun 5, 2022
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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Both were impressive but bivol did it to the p4p #1 fighter so he takes it.
     
    Pimp C, Jun 5, 2022
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  15. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I'm not sure I'd call Haneys win a masterpiece LOL… I also think it's insulting to compare the Australian to Canelo whos a cert for the Hall of Fame.. these two fights and performances are not comfortable
     
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