Who's record/resume would you prefer to have, Floyds or Mannys?

Floyd's Resume:
*Longevity, consistency, and reliability – ​

Agreed. FMJ is one of the most composed Boxers of modern times and this is reflected in his resumé.​

*GOAT at 130 –

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There were a few more fights that would have cemented this status. As it stands there is a good argument for Alexis Arguello being the No.1 of 130 of All-Time.​

*The "names" he faced had their stocks rising at the time he fought them – ​

I’m trying to think of which “names” you would include under this description.​

*140 left much to be desired

Agreed – this was a stepping stone to get to OdlH.

 

Floyd fellow Americans boxing writers of America chose Pacquiao as Boxer of the Decade than I'm rich coward Floyd. That must be hurt.

 

So people in this thread are Giving Floyd Mayweather a Pass for not fighting the best 140 fighter and #3P4P at the time in Kostya Tszyu. And then another Pass for doing the Same thing when Margarito became the #1 guy at 147 and then Floyd retiring.

Someone wrote that 140 didnt have much at the time.

It was only the greatest 140 class ever from 2003 to 2005 when you had

Around that time you had Tszyu, Judah, Cotto, Hatton, Gatti (Who he fought), Mitchell (Who he fought after Tszyu killed him).
**** Mayweather waited some 3 years later to face Hatton or Judah and then has waited some 7 years to face Cotto.

The fact remains he skipped in the day the 2 biggest punch's at there weights when he moved there and both were the Ring Champs if i recall.

If you really look at it and go through every fight.
And i have researched those two more than most.

Pacquiao has a better resume without doubt as his wins over

Barrera
Morales
Marquez
Hatton
Dela Hoya
(Who i feel will all go to the HOF far outweigh

Mayweathers wins against
Dela Hoya
Corrales
Hatton
Mosley
Castillo

Having said all this too the floyd fans both are outstanding resumes.

But Pac's win against

Marco A Barrera in 2003 is far better than anything Floyd has even come close too.

Because i think some really forget that
Barrera just came off a spell were he beat

Hamed
Sanchez
Morales
Tapia
Kelley

Then got beat down by Pacquiao. I mean no opponent Mayweather has ever faced has come of 5 wins in a row like that leading up to there fights.

 

Tyzu was ion the sidelines njured when Floyd was at 140. This is a fact. He then faced Hatton and retired.

Cotto was 'not ready' to fight Mayweather at 140

How can you give Pac credit for a Juan 'win' but not Mayweather

 

unfortunately for you, you just said it was at 130 a few posts ago

if only your fat AZZ was skinny enough not to break the noose rope, you would be dead by now

 

I'm trying to make a point about how Floyd always fought the better versions of opponents that both he and emmanuel share.

It's silly and a bit sad that Floyd can fight Cotto(e), who was already pass prime by the time emmanuel and Floyd fought him, 2.5 years AFTER emmanuel did and still fight a better version of Miguel. Just goes to show how well navigated emmanuel's career has been in recent years. Due to this reason Floyd can definitely do a few more things before his career is over to cement his status over emmanuel.

 

Man you're a good poster, but you're so biased in regards to Floyd

 

I'm not sure that Floyd has always fought the better version of their mutual opponents.

OdlH? Yes - definitely.
Mosley? Yes - definitely.
Hatton? Possibly but I think it's fair to note the manner of Pacquiao's victory and that Pacquiao fought Hatton at his native 140 (where I think he was still Ring Champ)
Marquez - I don't think so.
Cotto - I am curious to know why you think, a) the Cotto that FMJ faced was a better version than the one Pacquiao fought and, b) this seems to be linked to the well navigated career of Pacquiao (are we talking catch-weights here?)

 

MaB had a rough camp in that first manny fight, with the fires and the surgery that he had that the media had just found out about, i think he wasn't right for that fight if you watched the original lead up to the fight they talked about it alot

 

had he not had those distractions things might be a lot different now

 

but im going with mayweather

 

Cotto(e) before working with experienced trainers had many technical flaws. You are right though the catchweight didn't help either.

Floyd fights ODLH and Mosley coming off the best wins of their later careers. emmanuel could have fought Mosley sooner, he offered as early back as 2009 to which emmanuel said you're too good Shane, but chose to put Clottey and margo(e) in between.

emmanuel did get his hands on a better Juan. He also had 3 attempts to convincingly beat him but could never accomplish the task. In their final fight, emmanuel delayed the Juan bout for as long as possible hoping to age him out. Juan despite being a heavy underdog ends up upsetting him.

margo(e) was a nobody by the time emmanuel fought him. Paul Williams was available at the time if he was so eager to fight big guys.

I think emmanuel's run from ODLH to even as far as Clottey for the most part was pretty legit, save the catchweight part with Cotto(e). It's after that where things became whack.

 

Manny's resume.

would rather be Floyd as a person though, mo' money, mo' bitchez.

 

Manny's resume, but Floyd's girl (the fake one, not Ellerbe).