whos resume is better per weight division between PDF and DLH?

Oscar De La Hoya: (Vs. the best over the years win or lose)
In no order, just names (It's a who's who of the best avaliable)


Jr. Lightweight:
1. Troy Dorsey
2. Jimmy Bredahl (WBO Jr. Lightweight title)

Lightweight:
1. Jorge Paez
2. John John Molina
3. Rafael Ruelas (IBF lightweight title)
4. Genaro Hernandez (WBO Lightweight title)
5. Jesse James Leija

Jr. Welterweight:
1. Julio Cesar Chavez (WBC Jr. Welterweight title)
2. Miguel Angel Gonzalez

Welterweight:
1. Pernell Whitaker (WBC Welterweight title)
2. Hector Camacho
3. Julio Cesar Chavez II
4. Ike Quartey
5. Oba Carr
6. Felix Trinidad (Lost)
7. Shane Mosley (Lost)
8. Arturo Gatti

Jr. Middleweight:
1. Fernando Vargas (WBA Jr. Middleweight title)
2. Yori Boy Campas
3. Shane Mosley II (Lost)
4. Ricardo Mayorga (WBC Jr. Middleweight Title)
5. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (Lost)
6. Javier Castillejo (WBC jr. Middleweight title)

Middleweight:
1. Felix Sturm (WBO Middleweight Title)
2. Benranrd Hopkins (Lost)

IMO, it's a no Contest..
Oscar De La Hoya hands down. from Lightweight on Foward.
Mayweather had the better record as a Jr. Lightweight...that is all.
(It's obvious that a Middleweight Hoya should have never happened)

Only BIG names I can see missing are: (off the top)
Kostya Tzsyu at Jr. Welterweight
Vernon Forrest at Welterweight
Winky Wright at Jr. Middleweight
Pernell Whitaker II at Jr. Middleweight
(Guess Oscar got his own medicine here by not giving Pea a rematch)

I'll wait for someone to produce a Mayweather breakdown....

 

DLH has a better wins resume and it's not even debateable, but that doesn't in and of itself mean he was a greater fighter.

There's many facets to making a great, e.g. dominance, consitstency, longevity, head-to-head ability.

Whilst I have DLH ahead in most categories and do regard him the greater fighter, many could reasonably disagree that DLH is the more dominant, consistent, or head-to-head better fighter and come to the conclusion that Floyd was greater, even though they'd be unreasonable if they deny that DLH has the better wins resume.

 

Seriously? De La Hoya no question!

 

Delahoya has the better names, although many were shells of their former selves - Whitaker, Chavez and then Quartey was out the ring forever and coming back from Malaria.

Mayweather was far far more dominant, to answer the specific question:

130 - Mayweather - by a long way
135 - Mayweather - beat the number 1 at the weight twice, Delahoya didnt take on the top guys at 135, and made Gonzalez fight him at 140
140 - Delahoya - if Mayweather managed to get Hatton at 140 you may flip this but Hatton turned the fight down 5 times, Cotto also turned the fight down at 140 in 2005
147 - Delahoya - amazing resume and a better era, Mayweather's would have been far stronger if Mosley signed in 2006, if Delahoya came down to 147 instead of 154. As it is Mayweathers beat 3 linear champs in his 4 fights at 147 and an ex-belt holder.
154 - Mayweather - he has the best win of the lot beating Delahoya

 

Mayweather is the greater fighter overall imo, i know Oscar has fought so many top names, but there are question marks imo that i generally bring up everytime we discuss him! Mayweather quite simply is one of the most difficult fighters to pick against h2h at his best also.

At 130 Mayweather
At 135 Hard, as Oscar has more good wins, but Mayweather has the best, i'll pick Mayweather, as i rate Castillo very highly, i wont argue with any1 going with Oscar here though.
At 140 Oscar just
At 147 Oscar, though still just, as he lost to Shane, Quartey imo, but beat Trinida imo, which swings it, has a better resume here than Floyd, but Floyd hasnt come close to losing against the top fighters at the time, just as usual.
At 154 Oscar, Mayweather has had 1 fight, and i fought Oscar beat Shane well here, that win got better with time, as Shane would beat Vargas, who Oscar beat aswell, and then Mayorga aswell.

Still, Mayweather most definitely the greater fighter imo.

 

Why the big discrepancy Mac?

It obviously isn't because of resumes. DLH has the better wins hands down.

Do you think Mayweather is THAT much better head-to-head and skill wise?

Do you think DLH would struggle with anyone Mayweather has beaten?

Do you think Mayweather wouldn't struggle with anyone DLH struggled with?

Do you think their fight wasn't sufficiently close to suggest, all things considered that DLH in his prime probably would have won their contest?

 

I personally dont think Oscar could ever beat Mayweather, i do feel quite strongly on that point. though

 

Not only that bro...
they always wanna discredit De la Hoya as fighting "Shells of their former self's" & Smaller fighter's...ect
Yet bodly claim Mayweather's victory's over Aurturo Gatti, Carlos Hernadez, Genaro Hernandez, Jose Luis Castillo and a 34 year old De La Hoya as great wins. (when 2 of those wins could be labled as disputed, and are anything but great showings for Floyd and could have went either way.)

Diego Corrales
Zab Judah
Ricky Hatton
The Only Great win's (Names) on Mayweather's Resume.
that ain't on Oscar's...:deal

This ain't a "What if" Mayweather fight's...
this is who had a better career fighting better fighter's.
and proving it in the ring by facing the BEST.

 

I know you may be right about some people here, not me though, im not trying to be unreasonable towards Oscar, ive give him credit on this thread where i see due, im no Floyd fan either. But im just calling it how i see it

 

Not directed at me but:

1. Yes, but not by much past prime old Whitaker is better than past prime Delahoya. But many had Whitaker winning

2. Leagues better skill wise, head to head, yes I think he beats Quartey (who I had beating DLH),

3. Maybe Judah/Castillo/Corrales/Hatton may have ran DLH close. I pick DLH to beat all but those aren't easy fights and all are prime, DLH rarely fought a prime fighter

4. I think he'd struggle with Whitaker but edge him out in the greatest technical battle of all time. I think he'd win 8-4 decisions over Quartey/Mosley and shutout Trinidad, old chavez gets dominated

5. It wasn't close unless you count missed flurries. Mayweather landed twice as many shots as Delahoya and was in cruise control. If the fight was at both fighters prime it would be at 140 as a catch weight and Delahoya wouldn't have the massive weight advantage. Delahoya would also be weaker defensively and fade like he usually did and Mayweather would still have the massive technical skill advantage over Hoya. Don't forget Mayweather at 154 looked far slower than Mayweather at 135-140

 

Suck's that for Mayweather's resume people have to imagine all of his fights for him rather than being able to bring out actual footage of him in there vs. the best...
It must suck trying to debate and just base all his H2H credibility on his GODlike "Skillset".

Win or Lose..
by that same note De La Hoya would easily defeat a...
Diego Corrales
Zab Judah
Ricky Hatton aswell. (see I imagined 3 victory's for Oscar)