Who's slower Joyce or Old Man Foreman

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Who's slower Joyce or Old Man Foreman

  1. Joyce

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  2. Foreman

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  1. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    Would you guys say Joyce is slower than Valuev
     
  2. BCS8

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    I can write a letter, spell-check it, sign it, draw a funny little doodle at the bottom, fold it up and stuff it into an envelope .... and then seal it with hot wax and stick the stamps on it before either of these two can unload a punch.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

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  4. Boxed Ears

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    I don't know but there were times during Chisora when I felt like I had never seen the oldest Foreman punching quite as slow. But that's just an impression.
     
  5. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joyce is almost certainly slower. Foreman was quite a bit smaller naturally.
    Fortunately Joyce has an unbreakable chin and work rate. He just keeps coming and you can't stop him.
    That's why they call him the juggernaut.
     
  6. drenlou

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    Joyce hands down is the slowest fighter I've ever seen.
     
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  7. The Professor

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    Glacially slow. In fact, a glacier would probably reach its destination before one of Joyce's punches landed!
     
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  8. Barrf

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    deceptive speed = great timing. Old Foreman was as slow as molasses, but he had great timing sometimes. Especially when he remembered to jab.
     
  9. Serge

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    Great timing is definitely a thing. A slower fighter can negate a quicker one's speed advantage to a certain degree with great timing

    But there is no such thing as deceptive speed. A car travelling at 90mph is not travelling at 100mph or 80mph just because someone thinks it appears like it's travelling at a different speed to that which it actually is

    A punch always travels at the speed it travels at. It's neither deceptively quick nor deceptively slow

    A slow-fast speed fighter will land with shots which appear too slow to do so but in reality they're too fast not to. But the speed of a slow-fast speed punch is constant

    My pupils often ask me if slow-fast speed fighters are slow or fast and I always reply that slow-fast speed fighters are neither slow nor fast whilst simultaneously being both


    This is why slow-fast speed fighters are such a nightmare to fight. Because you see the punch coming but you're still going to get hit with it
     
  10. The Cryptkeeper

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    George Foreman vs Joe Joyce would have been nothing more than legalised homicide.

    There is not one thing Joe Joyce has or does that is anywhere near the equal of Foreman.
     
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  11. Boxing_Fan101

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    Have you forgot Joyce’s amazing spin kick
     
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  12. Serge

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    Big Joe
    They say he's slow
    Very slow indeed
    But what do they know
    Let alone understand slow-fast speed
     
  13. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just look who Foreman has fought and who Joyce has fought,just look how many fights Foreman has had and how many Joyce has had,just look how long of a career Foreman had and how long of a career Joyce has had. Foreman had more fights in his first two years as a pro than Joyce has had his whole career.There is simply no comparison between these two fighters ! Now back to the title of this thread,Foreman fought in far better eras than Joyce could even dream of and his hand speed and movement along with his style worked fine,then add to this that Foreman had the ability like already mentioned to knock people out with punches that they never even seen coming. Foreman had many attributes and his timing was certainly one of them .
     
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  14. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Used to say stuff like Joyce threw a punch last week, should be coming in any day now, but since it's become more true, folks don't even know I am joking.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    They both started throwing a punch when this thread was posted and its landed now.