Who's that japanese who did double slaps?

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  1. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sakuraba is the greatest, those were the days

    What's that combat sport in Japan which only allows slapping as striking?
     
  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Pancrase. They didn't allow close fist strikes. That's changed now.
     
  3. Fighting Pride

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    Thanks, I meant sport which allowed only open hand strikes, not just slaps. Driving a palm into someone's nose was also allowed right? I remember Ken Shamrock was involved in some of those fights
     
  4. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    There's plenty of sports that allow open palm strikes. That said Bas Rutten was infamous for this in Pancrase and TKO'ed a few people with them. It's not a technique you see often in MMA anymore. Which is a shame as it is quite effective.
     
  5. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pro-Wrestling. Which is where Pancrase inherited the rule from.
     
  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You could be pedantic and say Sumo Wrestling too. That's been practised in Japan for century's. And Pancrase had a gentlemen's rule where they didn't allow closed fist strikes. Whether that was adopted from Pro Wrestling is debatable as it could be argued that it came from Catch wrestling. Although Funaki had roots in Pro Wrestling too....Still i used to love Pancrase. Especially when Bas fought. :love
     
  7. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't say it as a bad thing but there's no debate they got it from pro-wrestling. The early fighters were all former pro-wrestlers and the focus was on doing 'shoot' pro-wrestling. That's why they had things like rope breaks.
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    But Pro Wrestling may have got it from Sumo Wrestling :yep
    It's all moot i suppose. Inoki was infamous for it.
     
  9. Will Cooling

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    Don't see how pro-wrestling could have gotten rope breaks from sumo

    And the no closed fists the face was present in American wrestling as well.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    I wasn't talking about rope breaks. I was referring to the 'slaps'.
     
  11. Will Cooling

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    Yeah but the fact that they took other aspects of pro-wrestling confirms my point.

    As I said I'm not saying to denigrate J-MMA but you can't understand it unless you accept that it was a direct evolution of Japanese pro-wrestling in a way not true of US-MMA.
     
  12. liger05

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    Hiroyoshi Tenzan from New Japan pro wrestling uses the mongolian chops that Sakuraba uses.
     
  13. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And of course Sakuraba was originally a pro-wrestler in UWF-I
     
  14. Stoo

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    "In fact, professional wrestling is strong".

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  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Your talking about a top 10 (& IMO top 5) p4p ATG MMA fighter, the best fighter to ever come from Japan, the legendary & brilliant Kazushi Sakuraba aka `the Gracie hunter`