Who's The 3rd Greatest Heavy weight?

Sucker you’re crazy… Evander Holyfield has better wins than all those guys, more P4P credentials then Marciano too he belongs in the discussion.

 

Evander Holyfield fought “a deeper more dangerous line up” than Mr Lewis especially if you factor in his size… what do you think? How would you split the hairs between the two Seamus?

 

Larry Holmes in my ranking.

 

I’d have to say Foreman, personally. His achievements are totally unique, & staggering in their audacity. I do rate steadiness & remaining at the top for a long time highly in principle, & I feel that is an under-rated factor in peoples’ rankings, but of course this has to be weighed against all the other factors.

I only rank of achievement too, not head-to-head. That’s a separate category IMO.

 

Hmmmmmmmm?

 

Evander Holyfield

 

I classify him as exempt from ranking.

 

I could never beat you in a debate, you’d argue a better case for Hart then I could for Ali as the HW #1 I’ll just sticking to making claims and not backing them up with you… lol what’s your opinion of EH?

 

He never failed a drug test (not that, that means anything) just like all the other 80s-90s top fighters… strangely about the time we had a HE-MAN population outburst.

 

I would also classify someone like Tommy Morrison the same way, for the same reason - it’s just that we don’t talk about most of the other cheats the way we do about Holyfield, because nobody is making lists of the rest of the field. It’s as simple as this for me - I can’t be sure how much of his better results is him, & how much is the PED’s. I could buy him as clean up until, & including, the first Bowe fight. After that, he very clearly either started juicing, or ramped it up hard.

 

Just can’t understand ya on this.

 

Well where do you rank him? & how? Are you just looking at the performances & not concerning yourself with behind the scenes?

 

I can’t use Xray vision on every HW after 64 to see who was using steroids so I just evaluate them on what happens in the ring because that’s all we can do IMO. I rank him pretty highly I imagine if I made a list… he has some great wins and an old school career path with tons of iron, I think he had the steepest opposition of any HW in history.

 

Lennox Lewis for me, multiple good reasons have already been posted.

I could see Foreman, Marciano or Holmes as reasonably viable alternatives. There is a huge gap between #2 and #3.

 

My opinion is probably one that needs another look, since you have suggested it.

If we combine Holyfield's cruiserweight and heavyweight resumes, then his statistics on paper become ridiculous.

Obviously that was not a weak cruiserweight era.

What probably hurts Holyfield in these arguments, is the fact that he lost the series against Bowe and Lewis, and they are seen as being his biggest challenges.

However it must be noted that he was relevant long before those men, and remained relevant long after them.