Whos the best trainer of all times??

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  1. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    Eddie Futch IMO, he was a brilliant strategist. He brought down Ali with both Norton and Frazier being trained by him. His fighter gave Jones jr his first loss (Montell Griffin). They are just 2 examples.

    Another that deserves mention is Ray Arcel, but I don't know enough about him
     
  3. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    dude, it was just a disqualification. it wasn't really a LOSS if you know what i mean.
     
  4. Hadrian

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    dude, it was against a prime jones not the faded fool that lost to tarver and he was giving Roy a hell of a night before the DQ. Montell also beat a prime Toney. I think Montell griff may be the most underrated fighter of the last 15 years.

    One of the many things that made Futch so amazing is he could get guys who had less talent to win fights.

    Arcel is up there.

    Floyd senior may get there.
     
  5. Pat_Lowe

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    I know but what Montell Griffin was doing brought about that disqualification. He was successful against Jones and gave him a bit of trouble. Jones was frustrated and hit him when he was down. Thats against the rules and it was justified for him to be disqualified. Griffin put Jones in that mood temperament.

    Also, Eddie Futch trained Mike McCallum and Montell Griffin against James Toney. There was an article somewhere about he was the downfall of Toney and how he had his number.
     
  6. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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  7. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl
     
  8. Pat_Lowe

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    Emmanuel Steward is very good, he's trained so many world champions (the most ever I think). He trained guys from scratch eg Tommy Hearns, and he can take over guys and turn them into much better fighters eg Klitschko and Lewis. One of the best ever.

    Another underated trainer is Nacho Beristain, he trained both Marquez brothers and a few other champions (can't remember who), he's a horrible manager though. In the corner he's very calm and collected and is one of the best
     
  9. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Eddie Futch
    Ray Arcel
    Nacho Beristain
    Jack Blackburn
     
  10. C. M. Clay II

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    :huh
     
  11. ajohnfp

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  12. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Ray Arcel

    I doubt anybody's succesfullt trained so many greats for such a long time
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Maybe Emmanuel Steward. He has taken guys from the beginning to the end. He has come on and tweaked guys with huge rewards. He has even come in for just a bout or two.

    Either way he had something to do with some of the best at heavy and other weight classes.
     
  14. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnny Lewis took a raw Jeff Fenech and turned him into a triple crown champion.Also took the limited but gutsy Jeff Harding to a world title and was in Kostya Tszyu's corner for his entire professional career.

    Taking three fighters to world titles might not seem much,but for a small country (population wise) like Australia which has only had about a dozen legitimate world champions,it's a fair effort.

    Lewis actually cares about his fighters and his one weakness (if you could call it that) is that he would rather stop a fight prematurely than give his fighter the benefit of the doubt and see him get hurt.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    For raising a fighter from scratch i like Emmanuel Steward.

    For unbelievable tactical astuteness i like Eddie Futch.

    I think Ray Arcel is worthy of mention too.

    Underrated a bit among many might be Slim Jim Robinson, George Benton and Janks Morton.

    Good stuff about Lewis Griffo.