Who's the better defensive fighter?

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  1. ko factor

    ko factor Active Member Full Member

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    Who do you think guys?
     
  2. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Something to keep in mind Pep was stoped 6 times in his carrer and Whitaker was stoped once in his carrer. Pep also had 241 fights and Whitaker had 45 fights.
     
  3. ko factor

    ko factor Active Member Full Member

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    If I recall I've read in The Ring Magazine that Willie Pep once won a round without throwing a punch! Does anyone know about this? Was he really that good as a defensive fighter?
     
  4. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Whittaker had to fight Sandy Saddler,or if he had over two hundred fights, he might have been stopped too.Most of Peps stoppage losses were when he was way past his prime.Whittaker had better natural reflexes in his prime than did Pep, but Pep had more skill and threw more precise combinations.
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe's defence is superior to Pep's.

    Both rely on agility and reflexes to get out of the way. However Calzaghe went 40 fights without ever having his face marked up at all. Calzaghe's defence is superior to Pep, although his aggression means he isn't a defensive fighter. Just an offensive one with betetr evasion skills than Pep. Calzaghe is superior in everyway therefore.

    Whitaker's is also infinitely more skilled than Pep. In a head to head matchup Pep would be embarrassed.
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Just one of the many myths the legend of Willie Pep is built upon.
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    :plzdie
     
  8. Sister Sledge

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  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you are going to have a differing opinion then please justify it.

    What Joe Calzaghe did in the first round of the Sakio Bika fight matches any of Peps 'defensive wizardry'.

    Pep is the more negative, defensive fighter yes - but in terms of ability to evade punches he is no better than Calzaghe. Just watch the Lacy fight (or any other Calzaghe fight post-2000) and I'm sure you will come round to agreeing.
     
  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Tony Pep maybe:lol:

    I'd say, from what I've seen, that the two are virtually equal.
     
  11. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It probably is fairly equal between Willie Pep and Joe Calzaghe, as it is easier to be evasive against slow Super-middleweights than it is against faster featherwieghts.

    Weights taken into consideration it is very close.
     
  12. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I'll give you this: Calzaghe is a great defensive fighter and will have his hands raised on November 3rd.
     
  13. THN

    THN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMO Calzaghe is a pub fighter, a good one thou, but for the sake of boxing i hope Kessler will beat his ass
     
  14. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If his reflexes are near the level they were a few years ago then he will.
     
  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Do you agree with Amsterdam and Blocky that Kessler will be smashed and stopped?