Who's The Bigger Win — Spence Or Crawford?

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Who's The Bigger Win — Spence Or Crawford?

  1. Terence Crawford

  2. Errol Spence

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  1. BM237

    BM237 Member banned Full Member

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    Usyk
     
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  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Gtfo, a win over Spence or Crawford is not even comparable to beating Joshua.
     
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  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lmfao no. Just no. Usyks resume is great for this era, but who has he really beat? He has not beat a p4p guy. Winner over Spence/Crawford is the clear #1
     
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  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Comprehensively beating an elite HW after moving up from CW is not exactly a common feat. Crawford will have a good argument if he pulls it off, because he's already gone through multiple divisions. Spence on the other hand has only competed at Welterweight, where he tends to be much larger than his peers. Spence has had a pretty good career, but it's not exactly p4p #1 type of stuff.
     
    UnleashtheFURY, May 29, 2023
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  5. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't think Spence is even in the argument for p4p #1 even with a win. If he beats Crawford though he has had a very excellent welterweight career and could continue that with the hopes of getting into the GOAT argument, or move up and fight Jermell to continue strengthening his p4p case. If Crawford beats Spence he should definitely move up and fight Jermell as a lot of people (probably a plurality of Americans) will have him p4p #1 even after just the Spence fight.
     
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  6. BM237

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    What?? Usyk cleared Cruiser and then moved up to beat HW champ twice and did it on the road.
    Get back to me when any of these two ducks will do anything remotely close to what Usyk did.
    Spence and his resume is a total joke and bud while being better , more skilled fighter didn’t do much either.
    Spence shouldn't even be top 5.
     
    BM237, May 29, 2023
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  7. Manfred

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    That's a pipe dream, Fulton gon tear his ass up.
     
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  8. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Whose ass has Fulton torn up? Oh right — NO ONE. But Inoue did actually tear through 16 guys in brutal fashion.

    And many people had Figs tearing Fulton's ass up... Or did you conveniently forget?
     
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    Damn July is going to put alot of dudes on suicide watch. Especially dudes who never got along but are best friends now. Maybe they can console eachother instead of pulling the plug.
     
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  10. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And who have Spence or Crawford really beat to declare them ATGs?

    I rate Crawford, he's an exceptional talent, but him and Spence's résumés are nothing special.

    Joshua has a better resume and Usyk is a CW.
     
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  11. Serge

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    Spence has been on mission clean out 147 of all it's career 140 pounders who've moved up (and some 135s too) since he first set sail for the Isle of Greatness.


    140 or below world champions who moved up to 147

    Danny
    Mikey
    Ugas
    Algieri
    Peterson

    Crawford next

    Career 147 world champions Spence has fought in his entire career

    Brook
    Porter

    May 27, 2017

    Won his world title on against Brook who was the first career 147 pounder world champion he fought

    Sep 28, 2019

    Fought his second career 147 pounder world champion Porter

    Hasn't fought another one since

    So in an 11.5 year career

    And in 28 fights

    And a six year reign as champion

    He's fought 2 career 147 pounder world champions and he struggled badly against both (prior to Brook's good eye socket shattering after the head clash in round 8)

    And how many legit punchers has he fought, let alone ones his size?

    Brook KO 65%
    Ugas KO 37% career 140 pounder who came up
    Danny KO 52% career 140 pounder
    Mikey KO 71% blown up 135 pounder whose KO% above 135 = zero
    Peterson KO 41% career 140 pounder
    Algieri KO 31% - career 140 pounder
    Bundu KO 32%
    Van Heerden KO 36%
    Ocampo KO 61% even Spence admitted Ocampo had no power
    Lo Greco KO 47%
    Porter KO 47%

    He fought in his opponent's backyard once, against Brook which he was awarded a medal of honor for doing

    Don't even mention his name in the same breath as Usyk's
     
    Serge, May 30, 2023
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  12. Dynamicpuncher

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    Crawford he's 3 weight world champion higher in P4P lists, and statistically has better record at 39-0.
     
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  13. BoxingIQ

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    Spence and Crawford are better than anyone Floyd fought. Wouldn't you agree?
     
    BoxingIQ, Jun 8, 2023
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  14. turbotime

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    Delahoya, Cotto, Canelo, Castillo, Pacquiao would disagree.
     
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  15. BoxingIQ

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    You think Castillo is on there level?
     
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