Who's the P4P best fighter in the world?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by radab, Oct 12, 2009.


  1. cloud_cyc

    cloud_cyc p4p demon Full Member

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    valid point. but IMO even if BJ is the same size with GSP, it wouldnt change the outcome. skill/talent wise they are almost at the same level ( people can argue on who's better ). but what separates GSP from BJ is his discipline, BJ tends to rely on his skills and natural instict and is not inclined on developing his body or push his body to the limit. so same size or not, at any given night, GSP will be stronger and more athletic that BJ.

    and it sounds like you discredit his win a little by saying that "skill just isn't enough to overcome strength". you should also credit his and his team's fight plan to engage BJ on a stand up/boxing on the first round because like he said in the interview, they needed BJ to box a lot on the first few minutes so his shoulder would stiffen on the latter part of the fight so that he wont be flexible enough when he starts to go for a ground fight (in which BJ is very good). all in all, he won because he is more disciplined, had good fighting plan, he's bigger/ stronger
     
  2. cloud_cyc

    cloud_cyc p4p demon Full Member

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    btw fedor is #1 p4p no doubt
     
  3. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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  4. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Fair point and I realize that "my argument" may be more true for the first fight. Because the second fight we saw a MUCH improved and more prepared GSP. great points about the gameplan and his dedication. But ther has to be some middle ground. Differences in skill level is debatable, but the difference in size between the two guys IS NOT and to say that it had NOTHING to do with the outcome is very hard to support.
     
  5. jordan1

    jordan1 Juan Lopez #1 Full Member

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  6. Weber

    Weber Active Member Full Member

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    Complete bull****. Have you even seen these guys fight?

    Nog "doesn't have a takedown defense" because he's thought to be the best HW grappler of all time. He wants it to go to the ground, always.

    Crocop had perhaps the greatest takedown defense of any stand-up HW there ever was, and this was routinely mentioned by commentators as one of the reasons for his success. The only guy to ever submit him was Nog. He has beaten PLENTY of wrestlers, most of whom were unable to take it to the ground for even a moment.

    Also, you are massively underestimating Fedor's wrestling skills. He's the GOAT of sambo as well for christ's sake, a sport that has its focus almost exclusively on throws and submissions. If anyone can take him down, it's Fedor.