Who's the Smallest-Ever Fighter You'd Pick to Beat Current Wlad 6+ Times Outta 10?

But what does that actually mean? How many guys over 6'5" have been all that good offensively, throughout boxing history?

Largely because the oppostion has been quite weak. You can carry on about how big and strong he is, but the fact remains his opposition hasn't been good.
And it's not like he's been blowing them away in one or two rounds either. He laboured against Ibragimov, laboured against Thompson and stuggled against Sam Peter.
I won't even mention his three stoppage losses, because the 'new' Wlad is supposedly so much better than the old Wlad, or so the story goes.

He's an impressive pysical specimen with good skills yes, but he's also got some severe drawbacks.

 

I think it is foolish of people to think that these all time greats from days gone by would just pound on Wlad. As others have mentioned, we have never seen a fighter of Wlad's size also have such great athletic ability and handspeed. With the way the rest of the HW division looks, we will miss the days of Wlad once he has retired.

With that being said, my money would be on Joe Frazier. He's not too small at around 205-210 lbs. He also made an entire HOF career out of beating bigger men through technique, determination, and most importantly work rate. Wlad just isn't busy enough to keep Joe off of him and Wlad would most definitely be worn out by the 7th round. Joe wouldn't allow the patented jab and hold that Wlad likes so much.

I do think a prime Mike Tyson would probably beat Wlad 9 out of 10 times, whereas Joe would probably be 7 or 8 out of 10 times, but the thread stated SMALLEST HW and Joe was smaller than Tyson.

 

Yes, owned yourself. The two fighters that lost to Wlad were only 6 pounds more than 220 pounds. And if one were fat and 247 pounds do you think he would have won because of that extra 27 pounds? :rofl

And I wonder how these 10 fighters less than 220 pounds ranked. Either way that's not important. What's important is you stressed how these smaller old fighters would easily get knocked out and all that advantage in size would overwhelm the legend fighters of the past. Yet, we can see the 10 fighters Wlad outweighed by 25 pounds didn't get pummeled into the ground and Wlad actually KOed them at a 15% less rate. And on top of that, the fighters he did lose to only weighed 5 pounds more than that 220 mark. A 220-230 pound fighter is a big heavyweight but it's still not in the same exaggerated ball park as the 240-270 and even beyond Heavies. More proof that size increase is a substantial negative that further shows how lazy the fighters of this HW era are. As you see there are no double standards here; actually it's you with the double standard. THe smaller fighters will get overcome and knocked out far easily isn't true, and that's what I was dissecting against.

 

Lets see....HE IS 6 FT 6.5 IN 254lbs

So I guess anyone shorter or weighing less than this counts



Ali would win 9 out of 10

Larry Holmes ? I think Larry could surprise him

George Foreman 6 out of 10

Mike Tyson 6 out of 10

 

People pikcing Burns are either trying to be funny, or mis informed. I think Wlad would dust Jack Johnson too, but that is another thread.

Yes-Wlad makes you fight his fight. He will jab you from a distance, bomb you with the right hand from a distance, take you out with the hook, or clinch with great strength and technique to re-set. Sure he has a suspect chin vs big punchers. Most fighters do. Wlad's stamina is very good these days. The fighters who meet him in the ring all say this.

 

Oh come now, that was funny. It amazes me that some guys actually took that post seriously.

 

I would agree with all these.

And i'm sure a few in these parts would pick Burns.

 

I agree that you were trying to be funny, but I also think some people here hope you were not being sarcastic.

 

i thin we have gone over that atg hall of famers can stop him...even outbox him on some accounts.

qawi i think could of given him a tough fight...what say you

 

I not jokeing, I RELLY think Burns can pull it off. He has the chin, and the power to do it imo. Wlad is no Johnson in defense either.

 

Prime Wlad ?? Which stellar fighter did any version of Wlad beat to make you think he could beat any of the all time greats ?? No fighter he has ever faced equates to 50% of any of the greats that have been mentioned so i dont know how anybody can seriously pick him to beat these guys .... Vitali, Wlad and to a certain extent Lennox Lewis havent and didnt prove that they could truly beat other great fighters .. I suppose on his best night Wlad could use his reach to outpoint Marciano but nobody is ever convincing me that either Klit beats Ali, Louis, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Frazier, Foreman .. I'd take alot of the 70's 2nd string heavys to beat him too .. Im a critic of Lewis but he would destroy Wlad .. In other words i think he's a point scoring heavyweight that wouldnt have the heart to win if he was ever in a real fight with a real opponent ..

 

LOL. This is some of the funniest of the funny! Frazier a subpar athelete? Frazier with his supremely limited skillset? This is the stuff that makes for a good abdo workout. Plenty of laughs!

 

Congratulations are in order sir, you just cracked the Da Vinci code. You've now got me utterly convinced by showing me the error of my ways that Wlad fights considerably worse against small fighters because he knocks them out at a massively lower percentage. If we continue to extrapolate that, I think he'd actually have a negative knockout record by the time he fights featherweights. As such, I think it's safe to say he's actually fighting at heavyweight in order to duck the real threats to him- guys like Jorge Arce. Because I've now seen the light, at this point in time, I'd like to change my vote to Jimmy Wilde until midget boxing becomes licensed.

Thanks again for changing my life bro. Seriously.

 

Obviously Frazier was a great fighter but hardly a specimen outside of his incredible stamina. In what other sport might he remotely have excelled? Watch him on the Superstars competition sometime. It's so sad it's pathetic. With the pat line regarding modern heavies that all the real talent is going to the NFL or NBA, where does someone like Frazier fall into this?

 

I will say it again. My choices are Rocky Marciano and Jack Dempsey