Who's the Smallest-Ever Fighter You'd Pick to Beat Current Wlad 6+ Times Outta 10?

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    LoL. Keep grabbing the straw. Your "The smaller fighters just get pummeled" comment obviously is completely overblown unless "pummeled" is your way of saying "winning a decision." Sorry for assuming that this huge mass advantage wasn't going to be a leverage of pushing the smaller fighters down and succumbing them with size and power. A little side note is that 220 lb pound mark is nice seeing as the two men to beat him weighed 5 and 6 lbs more then that. 225/226 lbs and barring a 6'2 fighter would be average in size in the 80's. So I guess if we use the 226 lb mark which is of small size in the division today then Wlad has more losses and less KO percent.

    What were you really trying to prove with this size would succumb the legends? The only thing that Wlad succumbs is big, fat, and lazy fighters. The extra mass they attain from all the dunkin donuts isn't helping their cause and improving them as fighters. Truth is smaller fighters do better against Wlad because they're in far better shape. It's the size and stamina that's an issue.

    Frazier would KO Wlad within 11 rounds
    Marciano KO's Wlad in the late round
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Jimmy Wilde:good
     
  4. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    This thread is way too long for me to start reading sorry.

    But i have always felt very strong that the man who is very very bad, no terrible, the man who is the equivalent to hell on earth for Wladmir Klitschko, is Joe Frazier. No disrespect, because Wlad has actually earned great status for me now, but this is brutal, a demolition.
     
  5. ClintMagnum

    ClintMagnum Antitheist Full Member

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    Harry Greb. Even at 12 stone I wouldn't bet against him in a ring against any tall boxer.
     
  6. dezbeast

    dezbeast Active Member Full Member

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    Hey Pete, how did Brewster and Sanders all of a sudden become "smaller fighters"? They outweighed all of the greats except for Lewis and Bowe.
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    They're smaller comparably to Wlad and being slightly over 220 lbs and not taller than 6'2 would be averageish in the 1980's.
     
  8. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    More than a year on and 3 more dominating performances later, has the perspective changed? Has Wlad's standing risen?

    :hat
     
  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Weight-wise, Dempsey.
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    It depends on the ref. Crazy as it sounds if I think he's fighting somewhere in the 1940's with a ref and fighter that won't tolerate his tactics (Which are far more excessive than Lewis and Ali so don't give me that ****) than I think he would be in serious trouble. A guy like Max Baer could rough him up if he weren't allow to hold and make it an ugly fight and turn Wlad into a Primo Carnera.

    If he's allowed to potentially hold as much as he did in the last Peter fight than he might be able to neutralize every swarming ATG fighter. I think Ali, Holmes, Lewis, Tyson would beat him no matter what (Due to styles and the fact they won't fight chest to chest).

    I still think with someone like Arthur Mercante reffing Joe Frazier would beat Wlad. And I'd pick Louis to be the next smallest guy to do the job too.

    Wlad should be favored over Marciano and Dempsey. Reffing is really important... I swear if we threw into a time period that would test his toughness and mentality more of his weaknesses would be far more glaringly obvious and potentially more often exposed. My ultimate 2 cents on the topic. Forget chin... the mind and mental strength are what defines champions. Wlad hasn't been truly tested in awhile, but against elite opposition these qualities are still needed.
     
  11. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Dempsey, Patterson, maybe even a Walcott rock his ****.
     
  12. eslubin

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    Langford would ko his ass.
     
  13. eslubin

    eslubin Active Member Full Member

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    And PLEASE someone say otherwise. It can't be done!

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  14. Ramon Rojo

    Ramon Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    :lol: @ people picking middleweights to KO Wlad.

    Wow, just wow.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The lightest in weight maybe Louis but I'm not that sure on that. In height Tyson would be a nightmare for Wlad

    Anyone picking Dempsey/Marciano/Langford simply doesn't know boxing or perhaps has a strong loyalty to their favorites