Who's The Worst Possible Match Up, For Vitali Klitschko?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You know what pal, not really. How's this for a resume:

    Lennox Lewis
    Chris Byrd
    Wladimir Klitschko
    David Tua
    Evander Holyfield
    Corrie Sanders
    Ruslan Chagaev
    Alexander Povetkin
    Nik Valuev

    Those were all guys Vitali shared a division with. That's a pretty astonishing resume really, had it been made.
     
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  2. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Christ Byrd and the likes. A guy that he just can't set up or manipulate with his jab. A guy that doesn't care about his chin.
     
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  3. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I might add James Toney to that list. Vitali wanted no part of him and often chose to face lesser opponents. I think they were concerned Toney would make Vitali look bad just as Byrd did.
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    You've made me think a bit there. It would have been good for Vitali to take on some of the names there that he missed.
    He'd have had a good chance of beating a good few to.
    Holyfield was on the slide, and Valuev I see him getting a beating.
     
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  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    I never said his resume is that good, Who compares with Lewis and Holmes? You can count all if them on one hand.
     
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  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    ^^^ Fixed it for you. Wilder management lined up an easy older man to win this belt, and picked a bunch of old and no so good men, almost losing to Szpilka and Ortiz who was 40+. Good thing they picked favorable cherries.


    :roflmao:You really believe that? FYI Toney was offered a world title shot with a big pay day vs Klitschko. He turned it down for a non title shot to face an easy mark instead for less money. Ducker!
     
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  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Well he offered Valuev a title shot and he turned it down. You really want to see him beat on Holyfield?
     
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  8. McGrain

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    Every time you repeat this here, i'm just going to repeat the following: that Valeuv turned down a fight with Vitali because he had to sign up for two options on his future. One against Wladimir if he won. Then another one against Vitali if that one was won. So in order to fight Vitali, he had to tie himself up for 18 months exclusively fighting Klitschkos - and for the same money he would get for matching Chagaev with no enhancement per win. This is Valuev's claim and I've never seen Vitali refute it. Zero shame in turning down this nonsense.

    I didn't say I wanted to see any of these fights. Fergy said the division was bad, I said that there was actually a pretty great resume out there to be made.
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz could have been Vitali's best win. Who did Vitali beat that was better than Ortiz. You are misinformed about the Toney, the only Klitschko who ever considered to face Toney was Wlad
     
  10. Levook

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    I thought Toney won the fights, but Montell was a difficult guy to fight.

    Your logic doesn't make sense to me: even if Toney lost to Griifin, does that mean all the compliments Toney's gotten through the years in articles & praise from fighters, trainers, etc about his slickness, defense, high boxing IQ etc means nothing?

    SRR lost to Randy Turpin - where was the vaunted IQ?

    When someone is so much in love with a fighter that they make ridiculous claims like "Toney's defense didn't amount to a hill of beans against McCallum", or "Vitali had better defense than Toney" to defend them, they are more than likely too unreasonable to take seriously.

    Unless I missed all those articles and fighter/trainer quotes about Vitali's legendary defense?
     
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  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    I am correct that he turned down Kiltschko. I recall the Valeuv vs Chagaev fight happened in 2007. Vitali made him an offer in 2009.

    What was the amount he got for facing Chagaev?



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  12. McGrain

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    And I am right in saying that Valeuv turned down a fight with Vitali because he had to sign up for two options on his future. One against Wladimir if he won. Then another one against Vitali if that one was won. So in order to fight Vitali, he had to tie himself up for 18 months exclusively fighting Klitschkos - and for the same money he would get for matching Chagaev with no enhancement per win. This is Valuev's claim and I've never seen Vitali refute it. Zero shame in turning down this nonsense.

    The same amount he was to receive for fighting Vitali, which was the same amount he was to receive for fighting Wladimir if he won, which was the same amount hew as to receive for fighting Vitali if he then defeated Wlad.
     
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  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then prove it. Until then, Toney never turned down Vitali.
     
  14. mcvey

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    The two options were the stumbling block for several contenders.
    K2 not only had the options ,but the right to name the opponent,no prizes for guessing who that/they would have been.
    Vitali would have been a full nights work for anyone,that he chose not to fight so many ranked contenders dramatically and negatively impacts on his legacy and that's on him.
     
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  15. Gazelle Punch

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    Ali and Holmes give him nightmares. I think Tyson just obliterates him. He didn’t handles Sanders speed to well and looked confused at times…Tyson was leagues better. Both brothers had a problem w left hookers prob why they stayed clear of Tua.