Whos to blame Canelo or Bivol

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, Jun 3, 2023.


Whos to blame

Poll closed Jun 10, 2023.
  1. Canelo

    86.2%
  2. Bivol

    13.8%
  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Canelo really. Firstly he doesn't want the fight at 168, cause he knows he is finish once Bivol destroys him in there and took all of his title. He want it at 175, cause to have his excuse ready, even though he was probably weighting more than Bivol comes fight night.

    And why everyone thinks it's just money thing? Bivol manage have said long ago, aka when Bivol schooled Canelo, that if there is rematch, it will be on their terms, aka split, venue, referee, judges, and all the small details that are actually big things and a lot of fights doesn't materialize because of them.

    As far as does Bivol deserve more, 100%. He is way better than Canelo, and he is a lot better overall fighter as well.

    He may very well beat Beterbiev as well.
    Also it's not Bivol that doesn't want the fight. Never heard Arum pushing for that fight. Not to mention Bivol can't fight for the WBC, cause he is Russian.
     
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  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bivol isn't going to accept the same split after seeing how they tried to rob him in the first fight.
     
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  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Bivol spanked Ginger like a red headed step child lol He doesn't need him its Canelo needs to try to save face.
    They fought Bivol was the legitimate winner, not a Vegas type decision like Canelo usually gets.. To me Bivol is the better man he deserves at least a 50/50 split with Canelo or tell him to go suck eggs King Camelo ?????
    Roflmao more like Clown Prince Canelo
     
  4. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even Floyd knew after his gift win over Maidana (shouldve been a draw or 7-5 loss) he had to pay Marcos more in the rematch. Its not rocket science.
     
  6. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    9-3 was fair and 8-4 a stretch for Canelo but feasible. 10-2 is just Canelo hater territory but the fight was very, very clear.
     
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  7. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Im one of Canelos biggest supporters on here! :risas3:
    I scored it exactly how i saw it.
     
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  8. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looking at comments from Bivol manager talking about how Canelo could knock them out and why risk it when they can get knocked out in a undisputed fight instead.. it seems Bivol team might be the one that’s hesitant. Canelo trying to fight the man at 175, given that he’s had no issue accommodating fighters before like GGG giving him more money, or letting Saunders get his bigger ring it’s doubtful that Canelo would make a huge fuss about contracts
     
  9. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A rematch between these is right down my list of priorities. At 168lbs it would be a much more interesting it would take a lot out of Bivol cutting to that weight.

    The fights I want to see are Canelo vs Benavidez and Beterbiev vs Bivol.

    I blame Canelo, Bivol and last but not least Hearn for these fights not happening.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Truth and facts
     
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  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    9-3 was not fair. Even 10-2 was not fair for Bivol, as you can easily make a case for 12-0 or 11-1 at best. Bivol dominates that fight.
    Just because Canelo and his fans are used to robberies, doesn't mean the normal fans should score every somehow closer rounds to Canelo. And by closer i mean where his opponents don't dominates him, but still was the better fighter that round lol.
    We know Canelo fans criteria for scoring fights, aka counting blocked punched as landed power shots, and 1 punch is enough to negate 10 of his opponents.
    Gets back to reality, the fight was 10-2 to 12-0, anything else is a huge stretch.
     
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  12. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo can’t beat Bivol. Forget about that fight. Make Bivol-Beterbiev and Canelo-Benavidez.
     
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  13. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed exactly
     
  14. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    We don't want to see a rematch. Bivol already kicked his azz! We want to see Canelo vs Benavidez!
     
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  15. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t see the point in a rematch. Bivol proved without doubt that he’s the better man.
     
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