Who's to Blame for SCREWING UP this Mega-Fight????

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by darryl1914, Dec 31, 2009.


  1. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    Looking at the poll it looks like Floyds to blame.
     
  2. pejevan

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    GBP apparently paid it that is why GBP is his promotion manager.
     
  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Manny...simple 4 minute drug test and he dont want to do it cuz his "pride"..when he retires the sport will be better off without him....40 million and u not taking a drug test..hmmmmm...
     
  4. elchivito

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    Simple. Floyd for listening to his pops. This should of been like any other fight and get it on. Even with the blood tests it is not foolproof.
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    missing the point....manny should have 0 reason not to take the test regardless of anything anybody said...the worst that can come out of taking the test is that he proves floyd's team wrong when he tests clean...

    Floyd could have pulled the same **** and said no to the ridiculous 10 million dollar penalty for every pound over....this was not an issue dec 13th..cant blame floyd for manny not wanting to take a drug test
     
  6. El_Rey

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    I suggest you go back a few pages, so that you'll be enlighten because I already answered your original question about blood doping. You and Cormega need to gather more info because both of you DIMWITS need some help. Please learn how to argue or refute an argument logically and be consistent.

    I know both of you DIMWITS are clueless when it comes to drug testing whether it's urine or a blood test, but no worries because I know you guys are ignornant. BTW, the original argument is about testing then I said urinalysis is the answer that you're looking for.
     
  7. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    How would you know that no amount of money or whatever is worth the risk of blood doping? Face it, athletes nowadays are looking for advantages over each other, it's not like blood transfusion hasn't been done before. Go read this nice little book called "Sports Medicine Secrets" to see what I mean. Steroids were/are considered dangerous and look at how many pro athletes have been caught or admitted to using them...

    Also, what part of "a combination of blood and urine testing is necessary to enhance doping detecion" don't you understand?? I'm not making this **** up.
     
  8. El_Rey

    El_Rey First in Last out Full Member

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    See that's the thing kid, you're preaching to a person that knows way more than you'll ever know in your entire life, and I have done things in my life that you can only dream of acheiving. Okay, sure you're not making it up; however, my opinion stays the same that no amount of money, adulation or any accolade is worth the risk of blood doping. Do I have to spell it out that that is my opinion? It's just it, too ****ing risky/dangerous.

    So, you do agree with me that it's dangerous so what's the fuzz? Hey, if some athletes want to do it then that's their ****ing problem. I still don't think Pacquiao is doing it. Let me tell you something, I've been a DOD operator for 18yrs and not once in my life that I use that crap or even my team and other comrades. I'm probably way older than you, and I can still run 10miles under 1hr 20min, 5miles under 34min, 2 miles about 12min 10secs, and I can ruck march with a 70lbs ruck sack close to 30miles under 9hrs, so what's your point? Additionally, I have done many ten milers in my career, and I can swim for miles. How about this? Why don't you check out Stew Smith's books or Ross Enamait, perhaps you'll learn something from them about hard work? Smith is a former SEAL, and his workouts will make you a bad ass kid, fitness wise, and Ross is just a bad ma****er. Like I said you don't need any ****ing steroids, but you need the right diet, natural supplements, hard work, at least 8hrs of sleep
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    and discipline.

    Like I said you're preaching to a person that knows way more than you. Stay in school and read more books, and yes, I know steroids are dangerous, and I also know this that a urine test is just as effective as a blood test. The DOD has been using it for years.
     
  9. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

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    First of all, don't call me a kid when you don't know wtf I do - I read you work for DoD earlier? Well I work for DoS so what's the big deal? You've done things I only dream of achieving? This is the funniest thing I've ever read on here - at 22 years old I've done way more than you think, both professionally and personally.

    Anyways, no one is saying performance enhancers are not dangerous, of course they are - however, what stops a person from using them? Cigarettes, unprotected sex, hell even murdering is dangerous, yet people do all these things :lol: Steroids aren't any different, especially after the amount of pro athletes being caught and admitting their use. Pacquiao nor Mayweather for that matter is any different. This is where you and I will always disagree - you believe Pac is not juicing up, I don't either...I AM an advocate for more stringent testing though.

    I couldn't care less what accolades you're boasting about here. I know all too well about hard work, right diet and natural supplements man, however, this is PROFESSIONALS we're talking about here. Totally different than you and I. These people are being paid millions to compete at a higher level than you and I - some of them unfortunately use a little edge and risk potential health deterioration regardless.
     
  10. El_Rey

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    First of all you're a 22yrs old kid. You're just a little bit older than my son, who is still in college, so you're just a kid to me. I'll be willing to bet my one year pay check that you can't do what I do, but since you're a just a kid you can try. However, each person has his own path in life, so I hope you're happy with what you're doing with your life.

    You probably have done some stuff in your life as a 22yrs old but probably not enough for me to consider... So, DOS huh, are you an admin joke who push pencils all day? :lol: Good luck to you kid, and have fun pushing pencils all day for some damn Bureaucrats, LOL.
     
  11. PBFred

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    You having fun patronizing a 22 year old?
     
  12. saltypaws

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    OK, this is only post number 2: I don't want to get too ballsy here, so I'm going to have to come down in the middle and say the hierarchy of boxing and the enormous public interest in the fight are maybe behind it. I think there's a lot of pressure on both camps and they're each determined to create a level playing according to their own standards. That said, here's my views on both camps:

    Could Mayweather reasonably have negotiated the fight without requiring Manny to take the drug test? Of course he could. Could Manny just oblige him? Same goes. People who believe that Manny's reluctance to take the test show some sort of weakness are entitled to that view, but by the same token, it was Mayweather who sought to impose the condition: clearly he felt some weakness is his original position too.

    I'd have to ask, is Manny's refusal to take the test any more unusual than Floyd asking for it in the first place? I think the answer is no. When you want your opponent to deviate from the normal practice, the onus should be on you to prove why they ought to inconvenience themselves. Mayweather has nothing to back his position but rumour and tittle tattle. To ask Manny to entertain baseless suspicions of his integrity, in front of millions of people nonethelss, is close to degrading. My point here is that perhaps Manny doesn't need to give a good reason to refuse the test as the request had no solid basis to begin with.

    That said, he could just oblige. I'm sure they are both to blame a bit now; it more likely that they each just want to play by their own rules, than Manny is on drugs and Floyd wants to smoke him out.
     
  13. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

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    I won't even bother reading your entire post since it's clear you're just talking **** as of now. To give you a little hint at what I do, I'm actually an Intel Analyst and Communications specialist, speak 4 languages (3 of them fluently) a few credits away from my Master's degree and far from a pencil pusher. That's all I'm gonna say...Stay safe at what you do in life.
     
  14. El_Rey

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    :goodI see what you mean chap.
     
  15. El_Rey

    El_Rey First in Last out Full Member

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    Good kid, make sure you send me those SITREPS and intel reports on time kid. You're still a pencil pusher, though, unless you are actually with us. You sit in the office analyse **** while guys like myself deconflict your data because it's inaccurate as hell and we are actually the first one in, you know what I mean? Becareful, make sure you pay attention to OPSEC around here, you never know you're talking to a jihadist around this site.

    Well, try speaking seven fluently and then talk to me kid. What do you speak Spanish, German, Arabic, English of course, and what else Uzbek and Farzi maybe? Like I said kid, you can never do what I do, the physical challenge alone will destory you if you have a weak mind. Have a great life kid. Make sure you send us the right intel, alright?