Pac beat Morales x2, Barrera x2, and JMM x2, I thought JMM won the fights but im no judge, therefore you have to go on absolutes, which is Pac being the P4P king at the moment.
its pac by a long shot pac beat mab and morales 2x, even if there are people who thought he lose against jmm, mab 2x and morales 2x alone is enough to put him above calzaghe anyday. Not only that but ring titles from more than 2 divisions plus a lot of other titles and a lot of more recognizable opponents win or loss its clear pac.
Its hard for me to rank Pac number one being that he has lost several fights, and really never beat Marquez. Then there was the Sanchez fight. and that fight were he got damn near knocked out by a jab. Calzaghe isnt really a p4p top guy either, but the other contenders Cotto who I would lean towards, Pavlik, Dawson, Bute will all be making thier cases soon I believe. I think that come July 26 Cotto will be the top dog, even if i think that Margo is vastly over rated.
Starting all the way down from 105. Erik Morales x3, Barrera x2, Marquez x2(Won both in my opinion), Ledwaba, Larrios, Solis and many others. When Pacquiao was taking challenges like Larrios as tune-ups Joe Calzaghe continued fighting cab drivers from Wales and fighting guys like Bika. This is hardly difficult, Pacquiao is doing what Joe DIDN'T because he refused to travel and go after serious challenges, Pacquiao is doing the opposite yet you rate him lower?. Guys like Hopkins(prime not the 43 year old Calzaghe was waiting for), Jones(Prime, not the 40 year old shot to DEATH version Calzaghe was waiting for), Tarver, Johnson, Toney and MANY others that he could've fought but didn't. Hardly difficult, Pacquiao wins this easily and I'm not surprised the vote is as one-sided as it is.
Pacs wins over MAB and Morelas isnt anymore impressive then Joe's Wins over Eubank and Hopkins. Plus Joe has never lost, and never had much help as Pac ala his fight with Hussein. Plus I really think that Pac will be knocked out soon, in brutal fashion
Easy Pick, Pac, he has wins over Barrera, JMM and Morales, all three of whom are HOF 'ers. JC's only comparable win is Hopkins.
huggers? after? The question is p4p for now. :yep The poll shows 61 votes for Pac and 20 for JC. Does that mean there are 61 pacnuthuggers and 20 Calzaghe huggers in this forum? :rofl
And that's why you're saying Pac should not be the p4p #1 now? Jesus! These people are way out of line in justifying their arguements. atsch :huh :-(
I am someone who thinks Hatton will beat Pac... Ill rate him when it happens though.... Right now Pac is 1 pound for pound, its only right, makes the most sence.
Well point is . . . not everybody who voted for Pac in this poll are huggers. He was #3 before PBF went into retirement. He is number #2 rightnow and that's enough credit. If PAC loses then he goes up to number 1. Everybody moves up one notch. That's just logical.
fair enough i will hold you to that mate, when hatton beats pac, joe will be number one, if he has not retired by then:good