Who's your Top 5 heavyweights now???

1. Fury
2. Joshua
3. Povetkin
4. Ruiz Jr
5. Wilder

 

Oh it's not like Wilder to fight a fat unranked fighter, is it? And Joshua getting up four times completely cancels out the idea he quit.

Joshua beating better fighters deserves more respect. Certainly when one has just beaten a unified heavyweight champion and won the title vs the guy who stopped him and the other has just had the **** beaten outta him by a featherfist.

No-one was ranking Joshua above Wilder when he lost, no-one should be ranking Wilder above Joshua now that the roles are reversed.

 

1) Fury
2) AJ
3) Povetkin
4) Wilder
5)Nasseem Hameed

 

No one ranked Joshua ahead of Wilder when he lost because he lost TO AN UNRANKED LATE SUB, not the #1 ranked WORLD CHAMP.

I know you want to paint over that fact, but you can't. It was a MUCH WORSE loss against a lesser opponent.

And Joshua spit out his mouthpiece after the final knockdown and refused the referee's instructions to step forward. He quit. Against an unranked late sub. The referee was looking in Joshua's eyes and saw the same thing.

I stand by my rating of Wilder as #2.

Fury is #1. Wilder is #2.

The winner of their third fight will be the #1 heavyweight and the World Champ.

And the winner of Joshua-Pulev WON'T BE, because they aren't at that level.

 

No, no-one ranked Joshua ahead of Wilder because he lost. Not because of who he lost to. Fury or Ruiz, it doesn't matter. Hell, if Fury had beaten Joshua, Wilder would have still been ahead of him.

No, I don't twist things to make one guy look good. My favourite heavyweight just lost to a forty year old. You don't see me calling it a lucky punch. And who gives a ****? Wilder has just lost. It wasn't controversial. He had the **** beaten out of him. Bad. By a featherfist. He shouldn't be ranked above the unified champion with the best win column in the division, who's coming off the best performance of his career.

It's ridiculous and because you're a Wilder fanboy.

Joshua got up four times and nodded when the referee asked if he wanted to continue. That is the complete opposite of quitting. I know you want to paint over that fact, but you can't.

You stand by being wrong?

No. Don't be stupid. Fury is one, Joshua is two. Wilder is somewhere after that.

The winner of Joshua-Pulev will be the second best heavyweight in the world. I'd say that's the same level as being the best heavyweight in the world. And you talk like wilder will win the fight with Fury. He won't. Not even in his wildest dreams.

 

Um, no.

The winner of Wilder-Fury III will be the #1 heavyweight and the world champ. The result of the third fight will determine if one of them is #2.

If their third meeting results in Fury's first loss, I can see Tyson holding on the the #2 spot.

If Wilder loses two in a row, and Joshua wins against Pulev, Joshua will likely move up to the #2 spot in my ratings.

But if Pulev beats Joshua, or Joshua barely survives, I don't know if I'd put either Pulev or Joshua at #3. I might move someone else up over both of them. Losses to both Ruiz and Pulev in the span of a year means Joshua isn't nearly as good as some on this board insist.

But, right now, I have Fury #1, Wilder #2 and Joshua #3.

Fury is the world champ and has never lost. Wilder was a champ for five years, made 11 defenses and has only lost to Fury. Joshua has been a good champ in his own right, but lost to the unranked late sub Ruiz, which is a worse loss than a loss to Fury.

That's a fair rating.

 

Um, yes.

The winner of that fight, which will be Joshua, is, and will be, the second best heavyweight in the world.

No-one thinks otherwise but you. Aka, the deluded Wilder fanboy.

Do you believe the 40lb costume excuse, too?

 

I don't know why you're trying to personally insult me. Everything I said was accurate.

I rate them Fury #1, Wilder #2 (for reasons stated above) and Joshua #3.

There's nothing outrageous about that. Losing to the unranked late sub Ruiz is worse than losing to the undefeated world champ.

 

Did I insult you? Everything I said is accurate. We both know you're a Wilder fan, and our back and forth is proof of delusion.

You rate them wrong. And the reasons stated are bull****.

 

LOL.

You left out, "You're a poopy butt."

I rated Wilder higher than you did because he held the title for five years and has one loss (and a successful defense) against the best fighter on the planet. Get over it.

 

You count a robbery draw as a successful defence?

And holding the title is impressive. Holding it hostage isn't.

 

Did Lewis successfully defend against Holyfield? Did Holyfield successfully defend against Lewis? Did Rahman successfully defend against Toney? Did Byrd succcessfully defend against Golota? Yes.

Did Lewis, Holyfield, Rahman or Byrd score two knockdowns when they succesfully defended via draw against their challengers, like Wilder did against Fury? No.

And Wilder wasn't holding anything "hostage." (Christ)

Name all the champs who defended against the best fighter in the sport (Fury) TWICE?

I'm done with you, George. Rip on someone else's list, since yours is perfect. (LOL) Is the next guy who beats Chazz Witherspoon going to be rated #3 on your list, too?

 

Definitely have Fury at #1 and Joshua at #2
I think the rest could be debated but I would guess something like

Fury
Joshua
Povetkin
Whyte
Pulev

Possibly

I know you said top 5, but...

Possibly

Parker
Ruiz
Wilder


Struggle to decide on 9 and 10 but guess arguments could be made for Chisora, Hunter, Usyk, Ortiz

I think after Fury at 1 and Joshua at 2, think many different ratings could be argued

 

You've got Povetkin over the guy who stopped him a few fights back and has a KO win over the guy he just beat to get himself back in contention. Get a grip mate.

 

Fury wasnt considered the best fighter in the sport when he fought Wilder I dont think. He had been inactive and I recall reading how some werent impressed when he fought Seferi
I recall how many seemed to pick for Wilder before the rematch also.