Whose Jab would you want: Holmes, Ali, Louis, Liston

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  1. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Definitely Peanut Head. It's the best mix of speed, power and accuracy.
     
  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    good analysis, every time i try to pick one i want to pick liston but then think of holmes and ali...how damn versatile their jabs were and how whole fights could be one at range with them. sonny could do that but as mcvey pointed out it almost worked against him at times. holmes and ali could pepper you all night, controlling the range from the opening bell
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Louis's jab would be most painful and was usually followed up by something fatal like his right. Louis was the ultimate lethal puncher, so I vote for his jab.
     
  4. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    Lewis - add him too teh poll now.
     
  5. mister

    mister Active Member Full Member

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    holmes jab is powerful fast and accurate and he would be able to beat a lot of fighters just by using his jab:think
     
  6. Briscoe

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    I'm taking Holmes jab. Most constant and damaging. Not to say that Liston's isn't good, in fact it's also devestating. However, Holmes used his like no tomorrow. Like a piston.

    What I think about the other jabs:

    Liston - Rates 2nd for me. This jab would be like getting hit by a broad-spear or something. It was a close call, I could have easily voted for this one too.

    Louis - A technician's jab. It was a "filler punch" nothing bad though. He was just as effective with it, but he won fights with those deadly combinations. This jab is useful, but not in the way that Holmes is dedicated to it.

    Ali - A flickering jab with sharp cutting power. It's a trade off, with Ali you get insane speed and accuracy. Holmes you get power and accuracy. I'll take the power.

    All-in-all the jabs are all effective in their own right. I'd just prefer to use Holmes' jab as my jab if I could "use" it.
     
  7. Jorodz

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    possibly the best response yet:thumbsup

    i love ali's for, like you pointed out, speed and accuracy but it just didn't have the power. could you imagine smokin joe eating all those jabs from liston and still be standing
     
  8. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    holmes, its accurrate quick enough and its just a smooth jab by larry holmes:D
     
  9. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great question,

    Because each of the (4) had a different type of jab.
    Maybe, possibly the most consistent jab over 15 rounds was Larry Holmes.
     
  10. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Larry Holmes.
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The jab is married to the style, so you'd want Ali's I guess, if you could have the style.

    If you're tacking a jab onto your average fighter then you'd want Liston's.
     
  12. alexvoce

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    Alis was crap did nothing like against Frazier he was just scratching fraziers face
     
  13. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    later on but watch pre-exile fights. many, many fighters said how dizzying and disorienting that jab was. whatever plan you had going in was out the window when the left started landing
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Of course you are right.Crap jab.

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  15. Jorodz

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