Whose loss was the most devastating to their future? (Poll)

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  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    You must be a brilliant man.:good
     
  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pavlik to Hopkins because it embarrassed the young undefeated star.

    De La Hoya has lost before, despite this one being brutal. Also, De La Hoya was only planning to fight maybe three times (putting it high) more in his career anyhow. He could still draw many millions, but I don't think it matters really. Win or lose it was best off for him to retire.
     
  3. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Understood, but man he looked horrible: bad balance like a baby giraffe, and seemed clueless once he realized his opponent wasn't going to fold.
     
  4. sthomas

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    Cotto's name is still buzzing respectably around @ the top of the division, even though he was in his prime and thrashed by Marg. I'm somewhat surpirsed that he's not fallen way more in the eyes of the public. People are talking about Mayweather taking on the winner of Marg vs Cotto II. It makes more sense to me that Marg. would go straght after Mayweather provided he gets past Mosley.

    I think Cintron is toast losing twice to Marg., but I don't think it's so much a devastating loss as it is a reality check on his ability. On the other hand, maybe he could have beaten the likes of Cotto and Clottey and just chose the wrong guy @ the wrong time. If he can put together a string of good wins, he'll make some decent money.
     
  5. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Khan, he was stopped on his way up by a nobody.
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's exactly why he needed a good ass kicking to get his head on straight. He looked great early, and once he couldn't finish Vera, he got it handed to him on a platter. It reeked of lack of preparation- his balance went to **** as soon as he started gassing, which happened too soon.

    Steward should've known better than to mention the Hall of Fame, middleweight champ by 2009, etc. kind of things that he did publicly. You can't do that with a young prospect at that stage- it's too easy for them to get a big head and it's nearly impossible not to listen when you've got one of the most well known trainers in the game saying it.

    But, on the bright side, there was nothing that happened in that fight that went wrong that Lee can't correct. Balance issues can be fixed, stamina can be improved, and he can overcome the lack of focus and taking guys lightly. No loss is a good loss, but it's only worthless if he doesn't take something from it and improve.
     
  7. sthomas

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    Perhaps you're right, but we'll have to see. I haven't seen him fight much but it looked like it could be a talent issue.
     
  8. My2Sense

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    The only way Cotto's loss hurts him is physically IMO. A competitive loss to Margarito in itself is nothing to be ashamed of. The question here is if it took something out of him.

    Having said that, DeLaHoya's loss hurts him the most. Sent him into retirement, and took a great big **** on his legacy at the same time.

    Pavlik may have been embarrassed in his loss, but at least he still has a title he can milk.
     
  9. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    We have no way to determine the long-term effects of Cotto's loss to Margarito but I'd say that his loss is potentially the most devastating of that group because of where he was prior to that fight and the manner in which he lost that night. Cotto was the one dishing out the beatings before fighting Margarito and then ends up being forced to quit. That's about as precipitous a fall as there is in boxing.
     
  10. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    interesting to look back at threads like this. khan has kept going. but i do think he will be caught..again
     
  11. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good Took him on too soon. Was ruined after that fight; his eye problems didn't hep though.
     
  12. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah man. Reid. thats a great one
     
  13. Auracle21

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    we could add angulo's loss to cintron up there but it is still too early to tell
     
  14. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree and disagree with that. The thing about Lee is he has undeniable talent but to be a great fighter you have to have that mental edge like Lennox Lewis had to bounce back from defeat. That is also why I'm not a huge Wlad fan. When Lewis was KO'd twice he didn't think that the other guy was better, he knew he could beat McCall and Rahman and went right back and proved it. People say he had a glass jaw and he lost to two bums or what not but he fought back from adversity like a true champ. I don't see that in Pavlik and Lee tbh but I could be wrong. Like I said though, that is the mark of a true champion and tough man, to bounce back from adversity with a vengeance.
     
  15. JCP

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    add margos loss to shane