whose the better fighter, sugar ray leonard or thomas hearns?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by pelican, Apr 17, 2008.


  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    If you don't count Duran II then you cannot count Leonard/Hearns II for Hearns either.

    Sugar Ray Leonard is superior to Hearns. Tommy was chinny and that was always a danger for him when he stepped up against big punchers or fighters more durable than himself (Leonard and Hagler). Leonard didn't have that problem and was only legitimately defeated in his prime against Roberto Duran, who he then defeated the next two times they met.

    Leonard by clear decision.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Upon re-reading this, it's clear you're very biased toward Hearns.
     
  3. Manos de Piedra

    Manos de Piedra Active Member Full Member

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    leanord is better, but hearns is a classier person
     
  4. Bslice

    Bslice Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. pelican

    pelican Guest

    the question was who was the better fighter. i am always biased towards the person who took bigger challenges, and emerged victorious afterwards. and in that aspect, hearns by a mile. 6 division titles speaks a lot about how hearns pushed himself to the limit. i believe hes the underdog in the last two or three title matches hes fought

    youre right about hearns winning on the cards in the first leonard fight. if leonard wasnt able to land that lucky punch and hearns won on points, i think most poeple would place hearns name above leonard.

    many people dont seemed to realize that speed was leonards kryptonite. and heanrs got them all in his hands, speedy left jab, speedy right cross. and while many people would say that leonard was the better fighter, i believe most of them would agree that hearns was the better boxer.

    if leonard and hearns would fight 10 times, hearns would win 6-7 times.
     
  6. pelican

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    sure, but since duran beat leonard in his best night, in his strognest weight class,a nd and in his prime, then considering duran II as a legit win for srl doesnt make sense. and also, even srl would concede years after the hearns rematch that hearns really won that fight
     
  7. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    H2h I still think that Hearns was the better fighter. Obviously SRL is considered the better fighter. You have to look at it from the matching up perspective...Hearns was the most nightmarish matchup for any style in the history of boxing..He had that one flaw which is his chin... Its really hard to say purely who was better. Hearns may have the case simply by beating common opponents more convincingly(prime or not) He got foolish by trading with Hagler and engaging SRL in the first fight when he was clearly winning.

    But like I say Legacy wise..Leonard
     
  8. pelican

    pelican Guest

    i am. im a big hearns fan:good
     
  9. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    P4P no question Leonard, but...... at 147 its hard to say. Leonard knocked out the young Hearns, but then Hearns came back and beat (In my opinion) Leonard years later. Hearns had better power, jab, legnth and just overall more physically talented. Leonard though had the heart, chin and mind...not to mention that he was no slouch when it came to punching power and speed.
    In my opinion Hearns is much more exciting and that sometimes make people think he is better, but I still believe that Leonard > Hearns @147, but not by much :good
     
  10. pelican

    pelican Guest

    what are those flaws you are talking about?:? hes chinny alright, but his defense and offense were exceptional
     
  11. PopeJackson

    PopeJackson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Love Hearns. Found him to be more entertaining than SRL. But Leonard was greater. Better resume and plus, he beat a prime Tommy (although it could've gone the other way obviously).
     
  12. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    well...based on the fact that, on paper, leonard has got a win and a draw when they met...i have to say leonard..
    although i am reminding myself here of what hearns did to duran...i dont think anyone else in the world at that weight could have done to duran what hearns did to him...at that stage of durans career...hearns is rightfully regarded as a legend in this sport..
     
  13. pelican

    pelican Guest

    what if the judges didnt screw up? how would you take it?
     
  14. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    you know..the more i think about it..the closer it gets and the better this question becomes...
    my opinion...hearns won the rematch {although what a great final round by leonard}...leonard won when they were both at their absolute peaks..
    but...hearns had the better career..longer and more weight divisions..

    ok...who's best doug??...er..leonard..just....based purely on the fact that he beat hearns when they were both at thier best...and i do take the point further back that that fight could have maybe continued and hearns was in front...

    damn close when you really think about it..



    something left of topic...when i got to have a chat with leonard he told me that he considered donny lalonde to be one of his toughest fights...i was surprised by that..
     
  15. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    Thomas Hearns is my favourite fighter of all time, so its hard to judge, but while Ithink tommy had the greater strengths, he also had the most glaring weaknesses, and while he did have a poor chin it was his inability to tie Leonard up when hurt which cost him the fight.
    Because of this Sugar Ray will always go down as the greater fighter as he beat tommy in his prime (although the hitman was arguably even better at 154).