JCC streak ended in his 11th fight regardless of what his manager said or changed in the commission record. Irregardless his record is incredibly padded whereas SRR was fighting contenders across the board from a very early period all the way up until his final fight. The short answer: Robinson easily.
Robinson out on his own. Chavez had an early loss, airbrushed out, followed later with the clear loss to Sweetpea, mysteriously deemed a draw. Then there was the shenanigans in his fight with Frankie Randall.
SRR and Willie Pep had some beautiful records so did Ruben Olivares at 61-0-1 before the Chu Chu Castillio rematch stopped by a cut
Greg Haugen also said his record was padded and he only fought mexican taxi drivers. Then look was JCC did to him.
Well, if you look at Robinson's streak from the start of his career to losing to LaMotta, and you look at Chavez's streak from the start of his career to Randall (or even Whitaker), Chavez's record is MUCH more impressive. If you look at Robinson's streak of wins from the start of his career, his loss to LaMotta, and up to his loss to Randy Turpin ... and Chavez's run up to Whitaker or Randall, Chavez's may be slightly more impressive. Chavez fought a lot of top guys - Edwin Rosario Jose Luis Ramirez Pernell Whitaker Hector Camacho Meldrick Taylor Roger Mayweather (twice) Rocky Lockridge Ruben Castillo Bazooka Limon Juan Laporte Terrence Alli Greg Haugen Lonnie Smith Mario Martinez After the streak, he faced: Oscar De La Hoya (twice) Kostya Tszyu Meldrick Taylor (a second time) Frankie Randall (three times) Miguel Angel Gonzales Tony Lopez Joey Gamache Ivan Robinson Sugar Ray Robinson's overall record is certainly more impressive than Chavez's, primarily because Robinson fought more times against top fighters. For example, during his first run, he fought Zivic, Angott and Servo a couple times. But, in some ways, I kind of view that as "running up the score" against people you know you can beat. For example, Robinson fought fellow hall of famer LaMotta five times. Chavez only fought fellow hall of famer Edwin Rosario once. As a champ, Rosario was feared at lightweight, LaMotta, by comparison, wasn't feared as middleweight champ. Robinson managed to lose a decision once to LaMotta, but basically Ray owned him the other four times. Had Chavez decided to fight Rosario five times, I doubt he would've lost any of them. And had Chavez signed to fight Rosario five times, I don't think fans in the late 80s would've been impressed too much. Chavez beat the hell out of Rosario. What would've been the point? Does Floyd Mayweather need to fight Marcos Maidana three more times? Does he need to fight Cotto four more times? How about Mayweather vs. Juan Manuel Marquez two or three more times? Or should Mayweather fight someone new? If Chavez beat Rosario five times and Jose Luis Ramirez four times, and Hector Camacho six times ... his record would look a lot more like Robinson's. It would be dumb to complain that Robinson fought a bunch of names repeatedly that he knew he could beat. They are still names. It's still impressive. But, in a way, it can also be viewed as padding. Sometimes beating someone once is enough and any more than that is just running up the score.
This. The ref called it. If the commission attempted to overrule the call based on an inxplecit error by the ref would be one thing. But just because they simply disagreed is ridiculous.
Great post some interesting points. Chavez's reign over three weight divisions over a decade was one of the greatest accomplishments in boxing history, his name litters the record books. staying unbeaten for so long at the level he did takes some beating.