Whose weight gain is the most impressive? Pac vs RJJ

Time for football.

 

the surgeon found a small labral tear and a cartilage tear around the rim of the shoulder socket, the labrum was repaired but he said the cartilage is in a position where it is very very difficult for the equipment to reach, its a small tear and they say i have to wait for it to naturally heal, which could take forever.

i've been seeking private help and some consultants think a course of hgh might do the trick, but it is very expensive.

 

Good luck.

I think my shoulder is fixed completely because I haven't had any pains.

The only issue I have had, has been, when its cold and I am lifting. Which I was told to expect. I get some pain, nothing sharp, stiffness and pain but nothing extreme. (kk really football time)!!!

 

Good job I didn't do that then, isn't it? atsch Biased fanboy gimps can't even read or quote properly.

Here is what I said:

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:dead Of course you don't.


I even explained this statement further later, clearly you didn't read or understand that either:

atsch Another failure from notoriously biased ******** "eze".


If you think Ruiz's performance was much better than Clottey's against Pacquiao, I'd be very interested to hear why.

I stand by this statement 100%:

Ruiz was absolutely diabolical against Jones. He made no attempt to use his advantages and put Jones under no pressure. He was a mediocre fighter who folded in the face of someone with speed, he was scared of getting hit coming in. Sorry, but that just was not a "historic" win.


And I also stand by the point that Jones's "historic" achievement in outpointing John Ruiz was severely compromised when a 230+lbs overweight and past-prime James Toney beat Ruiz with ease at heavyweight as well. :deal


Pac's stoppage over A-class Cotto (flyweight to welterweight, like no-one had done before) >>> Jones outpointing B/C-class Ruiz (middleweight to heavyweight, like Toney did not long after Jones)

 

200 lbs is not the upper HW limit. In fact, there is no limit.

You should do the percentage to that of his opponent, John Ruiz. That would make more sense.

Jones wins with the 41.25% increase in opponent weight at the championship level. :deal

 

So if it's only poundage that is important (since that's all you have mentioned), if we are not to consider quality of opponent or number of wins achieved at higher weights, then Tomasz Adamek is a far greater weight-jumper than Roy Jones, because he started his career at 175, and later defeated 261lbs Michael Grant.

:deal

 

He was outclassed.

 

David Haye started at 200lbs (191lbs)...later defeats 316lb Valuev. :deal

 

I think RJJ did a great job againsed Ruiz but he was such a better fighter the weight meant nothing and Ruiz was just one opponent. Pac has fought a few Welters and a Light Middle so I would say that's a far better feat.

 

Pacquiao has a better resume on paper but if you go back and actually do your homework Roy's is better because those dudes that Roy fought were in or closer to there primes....Pacs last 5 or 6 opponents that made him so popular were either coming off a loss or terrible performance:deal

 

DOUBLE STANDARD....Pacquiao also took out the weakest link in the Lightweight division for his belt (David Diaz) he couldve fought a much better opponent & he couldve fought someone better then Hatton in the 140lb division

 

its cute to watch people accuse pac of retroactively cherrypicking when the consensus was that Cotto, DLH, and Hatton would smash him and a fight with PBF was pure fantasy. Man, revisionism is crazy.

 

:happy Exactly. Underlines the point.

 

Roy fought once at HW fighting a slow like ketchup Ruiz.

 

SINGLE STANDARD... Pacquiao moved up past 135 and fought p4p ranked champions Hatton at lww and Cotto at ww, both guys were better fighters than Ruiz was, Cotto especially.

And Hatton was The Ring champion at lww and universally ranked as the number 1 in the division after his domination of Malignaggi. Open your mind to reality :deal