Why a Guzman-Funeka Draw is reasonable

Why am I not surprised?

 

Whoever scored round 12 for Guzman needs to quit watching boxing.

 

Draw, Robbery who cares, Guzman sucked ass. Look at his messed up face, this guy may die in the ring due to incompetence. I thought the guy was B level but hes below that.

 

That's a perfectly good question, Kirk. It really is subjective - some will say that 10-8 rounds should be reserved for rounds that include a knockdown as ruled by the referee (or, obviously a point deduction for a foul), while others find it reasonable to score a three-minute pillar-to-post ass-whooping that happens to not produce a knockdown (or does, but the official doesn't rule it) as 10-8.

 

a 10-8 round is one of those rounds where you say "**** the ref should really stop the fight, this guy is gonna get KTFO" and then the guy survives.

personally i think judges should use the 10 point system more loosely

 

I disagree - will state my reasons later.

 

3 rounds at max. for Guzman!!!

The rest: total ownage!!!!!!

Funeka's jab turn his face into pizza pie!!!

 

What the hell are you talking about, "even on a round by round basis??????????"......



......a fight is scored only on a round by round basis!dealdeal


I was in the round by round thread where as usual, the posters in it were getting there round by round information by the HBO commentators.....


My scorecard.....

Rounds 1,2,5,6,and 7 for Guzman.

Rounds 3,4,8,9,10,11,and 12 for Funeka.

115-113 for Funeka.

The story of two halves......Guzman was doing enough landing cleaner and harder through the first half, and in my card edging out 5 of the first 7 rounds.......

From the 8th round on it was all Funeka and in dominating fashion.

The thread starter in this case has made a good point.......
.....though Funeka deserved to have his hands raised and imo should have.......people are blowing this way out of proportion.

You dont watch a fight and decide "I think this fighter should have won......

You score round by round and you tally up at the end of the fight........unfortunately forums like this are filled with people that dont even score for themselves but pretend they have scored and then come in here spewing what they heard from the broadcast booth.nut

 

LOL that was in response to the thread starter who basically said that people thought it was a robbery because they scored the fight as a whole instead of on a round by round basis.

What did you think I meant?

 

Although I agree with your assessment about judging, I still can't see a draw in that fight. A best case scenario for Funeka is plus 9 or 10 rounds. For Guzman, best case is the draw that he got. IMO he won 4 rounds.....and I was rooting for him.

 

The reason that I'd prefer that that particular round not be scored 10-8 is because I dont believe Funeka totally dominated the round.

For example a couple of the Pac-DLH rounds were so dominant by Pacquiao, that it merited without question being scored 10-8.....

I prefer that the round that Guzman got wobbled in not be scored 10-8, for the very reason of where does it stop????
.......you then give free reign to dishonest judges to score 10-8 rounds in situations where rounds are competitive, but one fighter gets tagged enough to slightly wobble......

Was it round 2 or 3 of JMM vs Juan Diaz, where Marquez legs slightly gave way for a brief moment, and then regained his composure in round that was battled tooth and nail......
...if the commisions starts instructing judges to be more free in there point disparity, especially in rounds that one fighter buckles, you're really giving them ammunition to work there dishonesty.....

Judges already make an atrocity out of a simple 10 point must system.......I could just imagine there reign of atrocities if you gave them free reign to score more freely with wider point disparities in rounds......

......It would be alot easier for judges to hide there bias if you would allow them to give out wider more disparging scores in rounds......

Imo, the more you allow a judge room to explain there score (which you would by allowing them to score more disparingly in rounds) the worst off an already corrupt sport becomes.

10-8 only for complete and total domination of a round without a knockdown imo.

 

I'm interpreting this as you saying that Funeka won just by looking at the fight......
.....and then you go on to say Funeka still won clearly even on a round by round basis.....


As if there were two ways to look and figure out the winner of a fight.

There is only one correct way to figure out who won a fight, and that is scoring round by round!

 

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There's no need to interpret, he already said:

 

I agree....being nice MAAAAYBE 4 rounds! But that is only b/c one would show "sympathy" for jaon and give him some credit for a round he did a little better in.

I just don't see how anyone can give Joan that much sympathy to "GIVE" the man a draw or even 5 rounds.