Why a Guzman-Funeka Draw is reasonable

link2296 · Dec 1, 2009

PowerPuncher said: ↑

OK for a moment, stop being HBO Sheeplings believing everything no nothings like Ledderman tell you. Lets look at the facts:

1. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis
2. If 1 fighter wins/edges 6 rounds and gets his ass beat for the other 6 rounds but doesn't get knocked down or get points docked, he gets a draw, its that simple, maybe not fair but thats how boxing is judged

Now lets examine the following rounds:

1. Clear Guzman round
2. Clear Guzman round
3. Closer round, probably a Guzman round
4. Closish round, Funeka probably did more
5. Close round but Guzman clearly did more
6. Close round, could go either way
7. Close round, could go either way
12. Close round, Guzman did more

Thats 8 rounds which were either Guzman rounds or close rounds that could go either way

So conclude the following:

1. Yes Guzman got his ass kicked from rounds 8-11, massively clear Funeka rounds, Guzman even looked close to being ko'd in 1 of those rounds.

2. Funeka came off better in terms of the fight.

3. Allot of close rounds that could have gone to Guzman, especially as he was scoring cleaner in allot of those rounds

4. With so many close rounds a draw is a plausable score

5. An 8-4 Funeka score is also a plausable score but thats a best case scenario for him
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You're spot on...that's what I've been telling people since the fight happened. It just seems like Funeka got robbed because he was so dominant during the rounds that were obviously his. Also the state of Guzman's face didn't help. But people should consider what might have happened if Funeka didn't elbow him in the face breaking his nose, and headbutting him causing that deep wound over his eye. Makes a huge difference obviously. Watch the first two rounds; Guzman seems like a different fighter.

charlievint · Dec 9, 2009

link2296 said: ↑

You're spot on...that's what I've been telling people since the fight happened. It just seems like Funeka got robbed because he was so dominant during the rounds that were obviously his. Also the state of Guzman's face didn't help. But people should consider what might have happened if Funeka didn't elbow him in the face breaking his nose, and headbutting him causing that deep wound over his eye. Makes a huge difference obviously. Watch the first two rounds; Guzman seems like a different fighter.
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atsch

klion22 · Dec 9, 2009

PowerPuncher said: ↑

OK for a moment, stop being HBO Sheeplings believing everything no nothings like Ledderman tell you. Lets look at the facts:

1. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis
2. If 1 fighter wins/edges 6 rounds and gets his ass beat for the other 6 rounds but doesn't get knocked down or get points docked, he gets a draw, its that simple, maybe not fair but thats how boxing is judged

Now lets examine the following rounds:

1. Clear Guzman round
2. Clear Guzman round
3. Closer round, probably a Guzman round
4. Closish round, Funeka probably did more
5. Close round but Guzman clearly did more
6. Close round, could go either way
7. Close round, could go either way
12. Close round, Guzman did more

Thats 8 rounds which were either Guzman rounds or close rounds that could go either way

So conclude the following:

1. Yes Guzman got his ass kicked from rounds 8-11, massively clear Funeka rounds, Guzman even looked close to being ko'd in 1 of those rounds.

2. Funeka came off better in terms of the fight.

3. Allot of close rounds that could have gone to Guzman, especially as he was scoring cleaner in allot of those rounds

4. With so many close rounds a draw is a plausable score

5. An 8-4 Funeka score is also a plausable score but thats a best case scenario for him
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EPIC FAIL.

Guzman looked great in rounds 1 and 2. From 3 on out, it was pretty much Funeka winning the fight.

klion22 · Dec 9, 2009

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. The same thing occurred in the Dawson v. Johnson I bout. On a round by round basis, Dawson clearly won. I was very surprised by the "controversy" claimed by many on the boards.
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atsch

klion22 · Dec 9, 2009

China_hand_Joe said: ↑

Look at round 4 for example.

Guzman took that one, Funeka was more active in the last minute, but he didn't land the number of clean punches Guzman did in the first 2 minutes. His flurry near the very end of that round moves Guzman back, without actually hitting him once.

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some people will and some people won't give Guzman one of the other rounds depending on what they like.

Guzman definitely didn't win, but I believe he got a lucky but deserved draw, due to the scoring system.
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Were you watching the fight with your eyes open or were you like using the force?

Boom_Boom · Dec 9, 2009

Ignore this idiot, he also said Pac/Mab II was a robbery.

Auracle21 · Dec 9, 2009

alot of fights that have been draws were reasonable. this one was not. funeka edged it out. has guzman been the one on the other side and made funeka's face look liek that and be so dominant late then everyone would say guzman was robbed if it were scored a draw,

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