Why all the hate with Eubank Jr?

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  1. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I did think Abraham was tailor made for Jr, low punch output, past prime and static, but he still did a good job on him. Now collects $25m the little git.
     
  2. dinovelvet

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    Im looking at the rankings now and he's not top 10 ranked at MW or SMW.

    So what if he has a place in the super series , that means he'll be fighting other prime world class opponents , isn't that what you want out of him?
    Yildrim and Cox are in the series as well and they have done less than Eubank.

    To claim he's a product of corruption and is bad the sport is nonsense. I get that he's unlikable but keep the hate real at least.
     
  3. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes he entered the tournament....

    Lets see if he faces every opponent he is drawn against and doesnt drop out if he gets a draw he doesnt like....

    His modus operandi is very suspicious and resembles that of his dad until he got older and was cashing out.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Nobody remembers , or cares about that.

    Thats your fantasy assumption and has no bearing on reality. The reality is CEJ IS in the tournament and its possible he will go on to win it as well.
    Its also possible GGG will lose to the smaller Canelo
     
  5. JeremyCorbyn

    JeremyCorbyn Active Member Full Member

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    In fairness to the Eubank camp, Billy Joe Saunders told iFL about a year ago that he wasn't being offered enough money to fight GGG either, that he'd earn the same money fighting a bum, and that he should be earning more fighting someone of GGG's calibre.

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  6. DKD

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    If he didn't have a top ten ranking then he will have after beating Abrahm. Also how come he was in talks with Golovkin if he wasn't considered top ten or near to it?

    We don't know what will happen in the Super Series yet, however I do believe that Jr will lose if he meets a credible opponent.

    If you can't see that Jr has had a very privileged career thus far then I don't know what to tell you. His pro debut was highly publicised and televised for crying out. How many new pros get that kind of treatment?

    They're trying to do the same thing with Connor Benn.

    As for Yildrim and Cox, they are in the tournament just to make up the numbers; not everyone at the weight wanted to take part. Eubank's record is not really any better than theirs, yet he has a much higher profile and has had much more attention.

    No one is talking about Yildrim and Cox, few have even heard of them and no one has any great expectation for either. What has Jr achieved that warrants so much more hype and attention than Yildrim and Cox? Having a famous dad and that's all it is.

    If Jr didn't have a famous dad then he would not be where he is in boxing today. Of course it's corrupt. I don't believe you cannot see it.
     
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    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't care who cares or remembers it. The reality is CEJ blatantly ducked Jacobs. And my fantasy assumption is a lot more realistic than shoving your head to your ass and championing him as some sort of Warrior ignoring all the fights he avoided. It is also possible that CEJ will lose to a 16 fight novice next.
     
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  8. JeremyCorbyn

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    It's not corrupt, it is just the way the world is. If Brooklyn Beckham took up football (or boxing) he'd get bigger contracts and bigger sponsorship money than Joe Bloggs who no one has heard of just because of who his dad is. Is it fair? Nope. Just the way it is.

    I think it has disadvantages as well though, you are under a lot more scrutiny in that position than anyone else is, therefore you face a lot more criticism, which all brings more pressure.
     
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  9. HerolGee

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    yes he is clearly manufactured. starting his amateur career at 21 is a giveaway - he obviously got tired of being jobless for a few years.
     
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  10. DKD

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    I agree with you, of course.

    However it is certainly corrupt. The "way the world is" is completely corrupt. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't criticise or condemn it. We absolutely should.

    Just like when the bosses son is gifted a plum position in his dad's company without actually earning it. Not to mention like when the son of a president also becomes president.

    I'm not really bothered by any of this, Jr will no doubt be exposed in due course, just like all the other famous boxing sons we've had to put up with over the years.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    this is turning into a right proper forum now!

    Suzie Wolff is the one bothering me. Thinks shes some kind of f1 driver and then crashes everytime she practices. We know who your husband is, Wolff, and why you get a drive. Or not these days she gets a snug commentator job.
     
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    His dad is the big reason plus the Eubanks started playing the 'A-side' game WAYY too soon with an ice thin resume and no real belts.
    If CEJ wins the WBSS tournament then he can call himself the A-side and be all smug about it.
     
  13. dinovelvet

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    It isn't corruption and he isn't privileged. You are simply wrong. Eubank got to where he is today by beating rated opposition like everybody else. I followed his career from the start when he fought on under cards on channel 5. You mentioned Benn , well he is the perfect example of a pampered and privileged fighters son having made his debut in the o2 Arena on Sky PPV.
    His name alone got him a top Matchroom contract and a slot on all the big shows.

    Eubank was never given a top matchroon contract and he fought on small Hennessy promoted shows live on terrestrial TV all the way up until a few years ago .Nothing was handed to him. He worked for it all

    He'll likely get a top 10 rating now because he just beat #7 ranked Abraham. Groves just beat Chudinov to become a world champion. Eubank already beat the breaks off that guy a few years back.


    Micheal Conlon made his pro debut HEAD lining madison square garden. He didn't have a famous old man.

    You were wrong about him being top 10 ranked and your wrong about him being a production of corruption. Fathers name didn't help him beat Blackwell , Chudinov ,Doran , Sullivan and Arthur.
    Anybody else would be in the same place by beating those names. Exactly where is the corruption?
     
  14. Howitzer1888

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    Eubank Jr. beat Dmitry Chudinov, not Fedor who was beaten by Groves.
     
  15. Pretty Boy Floyd

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    What you have to realize is, a boo and a cheer is the same thing.

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