Why All The Jones Jr Haters

I just misunderstood no reason to insult me. on topic though if p4p lists are just for nuthuggers then would that make pretty much every boxing magazine/website Jones nuthuggers because all of them rated him number one at one pint or another.

 

I was not insulting you, I was asking a question since I thought that I had made myself clear. Anyway, the Boxing media is largely a Joke. Their undisguised adoration of Jones was the reason he did not get properly outed and investigated when he pissed hot on his first drug test.

 

This is all lou de valle's fault for not finishing rjj off after he dropped him and had him dazed, probably was paid by HBO not to finish RJJ if he actually got him hurt

 

Just wondering why did the Boxing media like Jones so much he wasn't that popular and his PPV numbers weren't amazing.

 

I think they made him the prodigal son because everyone felt shitty about him getting robbed in Korea. That made for an interesting story as did his brash personality and the fact that he was always good for a soundbyte or two.

 

Nope. Completely irrelevant. He cut 20 pounds to make weight, not 7.

Which renders the entirety of your argument invalid.

He made weight successfully for the Jones fight. It was training camp where he showed up way out of shape, which was routine for Toney all throughout his Middleweight/Super Middleweight career and even after. But somehow he managed to fight 44 times before the Jones fight without being shutout, included in those fights, a fight with a prime ATG and several other A-level opponents. Weight in Toney's case can't be used as an excuse. Because he did the same thing in several other fights and still had success.

 

If that is what you got out of what I just told you, then you are admitting that you do not know how to do simple math. Let us try this one more time. Roy's "walking around" weight when he was at LHW was normally 186. He cut about 11 lbs of water weight in the sauna before his fights there. That is perfectly normal for a fighter accustomed to it. When he fought Ruiz he weighed 193 lbs on the night of the fight. That means he only added 7 lbs of muscle to his frame. He had eight months to lose this weight before fighting Tarver, then he could go about doing his normal 10 lb water weight cut. Do you understand? If not, there is no helping you, you are admitting that you cannot read nor do simple addition.

Where did I say that he didn't make weight, moron? Yes, he made the weight, after sweating his ass off in the sauna. That is where weight drain comes from, not from losing seven lbs of muscle over the course of eight months. Toney was never as good as people made him out to be, as evidenced by his struggles against McCallum and his near decision loss to Nunn that he pulled out with a last-ditch KO. Add this to the Fact that he was in clearly poor condition against Jones and there is no surprise that it was a shutout. With that being said, that fight is horrible to point out if you want to talk about Glass Jaw Jones' Dominance because it was a stinker. Neither of them wanted to engage and it was more circling and posturing than actual fighting.

 

Conjecture.

FACT. :deal

atsch

Being in a close fight with an ATG means you're not that good.

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So tell me, when has anybody EVER had an easy time with Mike McCallum?

Well except for the great Roy Jones of course.

 

Waits for it...

 

No it isn't. He cut 18 instead of his norm of 11, but he had a longer period than usual to do so.

 

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That is not conjecture, dummy, that is ironclad Fact. We know what Jones weighed for Ruiz and that tells us exactly how much non-water weight he had to lose over eight months for Tarver. It was nothing and you just got clowned for not realizing that, idiot. You might have known that had you been watching Boxing in 2003, but then that might have been hard considering that you were probably just an itch in your father's syphilitic nutsack at that point in time.

I said he showed up significantly overweight, not that he didn't make weight. Once again, you have absolutely zero reading comprehension ability and that is disturbing if you are purporting to be an adult. Toney was fat as ****. He did not shed all of the weight in the lead-up to the fight and instead had to cut a drastic amount in the sauna the day of the weigh-ins. That NEVER happened to your Glass Jawed hero/illegitimate father Roid Jones.

You know why Glass Jaw Jones obliterated McCallum like no one else did? Because he was shot-to-**** when they fought, which is the only way Jones would ever have taken on an opponent of that stature.

Go rub one out to some Jones highlights on YouTube and go to bed because you are making a mockery of yourself.

 

You need to spell this out for him even more clearly, because if not he is going to assume that he literally had to shed 18 lbs of muscle. He lost 7 lbs of muscle. He cut 11 lbs of water. That is it.

 

Calzaghe cant hold roys jockstrap.He was an ok fighter who was fighting all of the time out of states,and he avoided the best of those time.

 

I never saw a biggest Roy jones jr hater like you are.Every other post i see here about roy you are there bashing the goat like there is no tommorow.atsch
But hey,you have to something interesting in your life.:hi:

 

Anotherfan,

Hi mate, yeah fair points made there. Roy should have got expert advice to come back down for Tarver. But Hinsight is a wonderful thing. He hire Mackie Shiltstone to take him up, but he should have hired him to back down safely in weight. He hired him for Tarver 2, but the damage was already done by then.

But as I said in my previous post, Roy never intended to just go up for Ruiz. He wanted2 or 3 fights at heavy against Tyson and Lennox. When they didn't come off, he was fed up, and he had Tarver screaming in his ear. Tarver crashed the Ruiz press conference and he goaded him into coming back down. If Roy had've had his wish, he would never have had to rush back to 175 just 8 months after the fight with Ruiz.

He could even have had a fight at Cruiser to ease back down. He burnt all of his muscle fibres by doing nothing but run for about 6 months straight to lose the weight. Like I say, hindsight is a wonderful thing. After the fights at heavy fell through, he should have taken a year off really. But Tarver got under his skin. It's not just the weight loss, it's the time he did it in. He had nothing left after the 8th round against Tarver, he was running on fumes, and in the Johnson fight, he was completely dehydrated. That's why he was out for so long.