Why All The Jones Jr Haters

And as expected, he responds with nothing but but his worthless hating opinion as if it's a fact, like any simpleton would.

Only took one post to fry this chimp.

 

First off they are 32 TKO 's 80 % of them were premature !

But if you really think Jones was afraid of that then I wonder why Joe said this in his prime ??

“I could probably give Jones a tough fight, probably the best fight he’s ever had,” said Calzaghe. “But I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown jewels I wouldn’t want to risk it.”


I really wonder where you guys come up with your talking points

 

He was just being polite like when tyson said he would lose to dempsey

 

This guy MetalMandible is on ***** street im telling you:-

Everyone knows Ruiz wasnt a big puncher, but do you agree with this dont know **** about baaxin comment made earlier:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12522996&postcount=484

 

Actions speak louder than words ..This was the same guy that had a fear of flying in his prime but when Jones got Ko ed 3 times and was shot to bits he finally grew a set ..But I'll let yo tell the story

 

RJJ also had a "fear" of flying until he needed money

 

Right but Joe had a fear of Jones :hey

 

Jones could have been a true ATG on his pure physical attributes alone.

Be real though, he did'nt man up and make the fights everyone wanted to see.

The way he conducted himself outside the ring in interviews did'nt help either.
In his prime Jones was like Mayweather Jr. is now. Not a humble bone in his body.
He approached everyone like they owed him, thats why alot of the hate toward him.

Jones has humbled some now that he's been cut down to size, but for those that witnessed his "I" attitude in his prime, few fans feel sorry for him.

 

done to death

 

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I hope this clears up the issue of Benn or Collins never taking meaningful fights in the US, and both of them not wanting to fight Roy Jones. Why on earth would Nigel Benn avoid Jones? A fight with Jones was worth big £££ to Benn, and after facing the likes of Mcclellan, Barkley and Eubank I highly doubt he was scared.

 

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Stanley Levin

http://www.thesweetscience.com/article-archives/4144-the-unhappy-finish-line-of-roy-jones-jr

 

:good Nice!

 

I am pretty sure a man like Benn was not scared of fighting Jones. The guy was an ex-soldier who braved the IRA. He was not the scared type, after all he went in as the underdog on several occasions.

What can likely be said is that he had enough opportunities to live well off in Britain without needing to go abroad all the time.

They guy was not right in the head though lol. I've seen those interviews. Theres something missing in his mind, theres a real animal who isnt aware that he needs to be careful when in public.

 

The boxing press wanted to know why Jones had not fought anyone worth mentioning, post Toney, so the pre fight Brannon talk was put together to answer their questions. During the talk Jones said he made big money offers to the other champions in the division.

He was not talking about Benn because:
1: Benn was not a champion
2: Benn had lost his last two fights and was clearly shot

Jones fought Brannon on: 1996-10-04
Benn had lost to:
1996-03-02 Thulani Malinga
1996-07-06 Steve Collins

Steve Collins
If Collins had really turned down a big money offer than why did he go to America and call Jones out to his face? (1999-01-09)
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There is always more than one side to any story

 

Hi Zod!

Once again, outstanding post. I always enjoy reading them, so many thanks!

Going up in weight wasn't that difficult for him. He ate plenty of protein and bulked up with Mackie. The problem was coming down. It has been reported over the years, that he did nothing much but run for months on end, to lose the muscle that he gained. He obviously didn't have a good camp for Tarver.

Why was he fatigued during the last three rounds.? Because he was semi dehydrated and malnourished. But why was he dehydrated and malnourished? Probably because he'd had a hard time losing the muscle, however many pounds it was. That and the fact that he mentally wasn't up for the fight. He never entered the ring in a depleted physical state before, not to my knowledge.

There is no evidence that moving down damages you. The evidence is that he entered the ring in a physically depleted state. For Tarver 2 in felt a lot better physically. But As coach Merk says he wasn't motivated by the two fights. Now he's a professional getting paid millions of pounds, and he should have been motivated, but if he wasn't, he wasn't, and there's much anyone can do about it. If you're not prepared psychologically, you're going to pay a price.

I think he was on a downer because of the mega fights at heavy had fallen through. He wasn't interested in Tarver at all. They were on a collision course and then Tarver lost to Harding. Roy wanted Tyson and Lewis (despite what Metal thinks) and they couldn't get made. Roy was down, and he reluctantly went down for Tarver. He wasn't in the right mindset for the fights.

Merk couldn't get the best out of him in camp. He was physically doing the work, but he wasn't there mentally. Like Merk says, in the first fight He was weak and had trouble making the weight. It wasn't an excuse.

After the knockout of Tarver, he'd had his confidence shattered. He should never have fought Glen just three months after. If he only trained 5 days and that's true, then he gets what he deserves. But Merk should never have let him fight so soon after getting knocked out. But as I keep saying on here, I read reports at the time, stating that Roy was so dehydrated he shouldn't have been fighting. Apparently that's why he was out for as long as he was.

He lost the will to train, because again, he wasn't mentally prepared.
Until you're in that position, you don't know what he went through. So for me his demise is a culmination of things.

1. It was never just his intention, to have the one heavyweight fight against Ruiz.

2. He never thought it would be as hard as what it was, to come back down.

3. He didn't really want to come down for Tarver, but Antonio got under his skin.

4. He was weak for the first fight, and Tarver hit him with a great shot for the second.

5. Most importantly, he wasn't prepared mentally for the fights with Tarver and Johnson. Tarver took away his confidence. I think he was embarrassed and he just wanted another win as soon as possible, to wipe out is only proper defeat. He took Glen lightly and paid the price.

So it's a culmination of things. But he was never the same after Ruiz.

Every one has their own view on it, and if you're not a fan, you've obviously not gon an ounce of sympathy for him, which is fair enough.

But I stand by what I've been saying. Roy at a hundred per cent of his capabilities, would have beaten Tarver and Glen Johnson.

If you're not going to train against a guy like Johnson, you know what to expect. Glen took advantage of the situation, like any pro would. Glen is a good fighter, I like him, but he just got Roy at the right time.

There's no way Glen could have beaten him pre Ruiz. He was in the right place at the right time.

But the whole start of his downward spiral, is due to him coming back from Tarver.

Also, I don't believe that he used the weightloss as an excuse until two years afterwards. He admitted going into the first Tarver fight that he'd had a hard time making weight. He was interviewed in the dressing room before the fight by Larry. He was asked to give a score out of ten for how he was feeling. He gave a score of 7.

After the fight, in the post fight interview, he said it was the hardest thing that he'd ever had to do, and he never thought it would have been so hard. He said, he'd everything to lose and nothing to gain.

So if you think he exaggerated his dificulties, or the actual amount of weight he lost, then that's fair enough, but the fact is, is downward spiral was due to him coming back to 175.

It has nothing to do with stepping up in competition. It was a culmination of, a hard time in camp, a loss of desire/ not been mentally prepared, and the loss of his confidence after the Tarver KO.

Glen Johnson was not a significant step up in class.

So in my opinion, it's a fact, that his weightloss (whatever it was) was the start of his demise.

He was never the same afterwards, and the rest his history.

Fantastic post Zod, keep them coming.

regards, Loudon.