Why all the man love for Miguel Cotto?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Vano-Irons, Apr 8, 2012.


  1. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    First of all, this isn't a hate thread. I respect Cotto as a fighter, I like his style, and he has continually faced the best. But what I don't understand is the amount of love he gets from British fans in particular. Loads on here have him as their favourite fighter, with a few being very upset when he loses. I remember an interview with Steve Lillis when he said he spent thousands of pounds of his own money following Cotto's career. Even the guys at boxing news love him.

    Most people say he has the true heart of a warrior, but again I'm not so sure. While he showed his grit against Torres, we have seen him run for 6 rounds against Pacquiao, deliver 2 or 3 low blows to Zab Judah early on, as well as take a knee against a loaded Margarito.

    I just don't understand why Cotto appeals to us so much, compared with other fighters, like Pacquiao for instance.

    Am I missing something here? Like I said i'm not hating on him, I just don't understand the pure love he gets from the Brits in particular.
     
  2. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    In a era where some have opted to not face tough tests he's taken on pretty much all comers, been involved in some brilliant fights. Handles himself with dignity and class.

    Entertaining style, At one time when unbeaten his quietness made for a mystique i remember Duke McKenzie saying he had a cold demeanor.

    As for heart, he's shown it time and time again. His body physical giving up on him against Margarito in hindsight could of been down to loaded wraps and fighting for around 8-9 round with broken nose and gulping blood. He showed heart that night IMO.

    The Pac fight he did what he felt was right. He tried to survive as best he could. He had someone in his corner who should never of been there. He was up against it and did well. Stayed on his feet and went out like a warrior that he is.
     
  3. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    I was actually thinking about this a while back. I don't get it either. I think Brit fans (mostly casuals) in general, bum foreign fighters a whole lot. I see a lot of American fighters re-tweeting some gay arse comments from Brit fans who are really just desperate for a reply or a RT and hardly even follow the boxers closely anyway.
     
  4. Vano-Irons

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    I totally get everything you say. But how does that separate him from Pacquiao, Barrera, Morales, Marquez (who gets a fair amount of love himself), or even someone like Paul Williams? Is it just his general persona?
     
  5. light-welter

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    Cotto comes across as a very respectable guy, humble, and he has prevailed in tough fights. He always sticks too his style and is very graceful to watch operate.
    However, I think Cotto seemed a bit overawed by Mayweather in the recent HBO face-off, he really deserves the fight though.
     
  6. Gooners2

    Gooners2 Archie Solis Full Member

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    He's always gotten on his bike in the late rounds.....(N'Dou, Mosley). He has stamina problems. The Clottey fight is another where he got on his bike. The N'Dou, Mosley fights are fights he was in-control of though. Against Manny its just compounded because he was taking a beating. He has a tendency to get on his bike in the late rounds though.

    The Judah low blow is massively overstated. If you watch that round Cotto had his legs under him almost as soon as he got hurt. He didn't need to throw any illegal blow to withstand that. A lot of people have perpetuated this because they either like Judah, or had picked Judah to beat him and are still disgruntled that he proved their pick wrong. Many picked Mosley to KO him to if I recall.
     
  7. SkillspayBills

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    Well i don't have Williams near Cotto as a public figure and as a fighter he's had some good nights but Miguel's had more he's a better all round fighter, the rest nothing separates him from them. Cotto neigh on everytime he fights entertains. He has the vulnerable side to him which draws fans closer. The great nights at MSG make for epic viewing and his style is very easy on the eye.

    In a era when trashtalking and ducking fights is the way to go Miguel sidesteps that and entertains us the fans with his articulate approach and stylish combinations. There's nothing not to like about him, likes of Pacquiao have had man love but his career took a different direction. Likes of Morales and Barrera have still got fanboys but when you read this forum many weren't fans of boxing when they were at there peak. Cotto gets man love cos he stands out to rest in this era and is fresh to the new fans.
     
  8. MIK1000

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    Cotto beat the **** out of Judah, low blow or no low blow.

    I think his style is a joy to watch, my favourite fighter ever in terms of watching someone operate.
     
  9. MIK1000

    MIK1000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Racking my brains to think of a bad fight involving Cotto. I have his career set? Can anyone think of one?
     
  10. pijo

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    I think alot of it is down to how he handles himself out of the ring as well as a pleasing style inside the ring.
     
  11. SnoopyboyM

    SnoopyboyM Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto is a great fighter who every boxing fan should respect but he's not quite elite level imo
     
  12. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Barrera, Morales and Marquez get a LOT of love.

    Williams hasn't been in that many entertaining fights. He's just some guy built up by HBO and was nowhere near as good as everyone expected him to be.

    The Cotto love IMO is down to a few things...He come up in the internet/Youtube era making it a lot easier for us to follow him. He's also never been a ****ish fella outside the ring - no lame promotional antics, no talking himself up or overstating his own ability, none of that nonsense. He's always done his talking in the ring.

    I also believe that he's loved by 'hardcore' fans cos he's anti-mainstream. He's no Mayweather, DLH, Pacquiao, Hatton etc. Your average sports fan in this country probably doesn't know all that well (might be a different thing in the US), it's just us boxing fans that recognise his talents and abilities. He doesn't go round and mix with celebrities. He almost belongs to the boxing community and for that he's cherished.

    On top of that you've got his fighters' mentality. He is willing to take on anyone and everyone and you can be guaranteed that he'll give it his all once he's in that ring. Has he ever been in a bad fight?
     
  13. Flea Man

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    Nationality doesn't matter to me at all. Cotto is a quality fighter, a gent', and truly won me over when he beat Shane Mosley.

    It's his vulnerabilities that make him appealing I guess. We like to see him come through Hell, as he has, and see how he gets on.

    When he was a possible Hatton opponent he seemed a demonic, unapproachable terminator, and he was easy to dislike IMO. Once he moved up to Welter he ended up having to be a battler rather than a marauder, and different cracks showed. At 140 there were worried about his punch resistance (Corley, Torres) at 147 his heart post Margarito, his shelf life (Clottey) and his impending retirement (Pacqiuao)

    He came through it, and has been on a solid run. In the days of protected '0's, Miguel Cotto has come through adversity and two horrific beatings to continue to operate at a good level despite his setbacks and his fallabilities as a fighter.

    Usually fan friendly with an offensive, fairly technical approach, the fact he gets hit and goes about his work in an aesthetically pleasing style won't have hurt either. I don't see why he wouldn't be immensely popular.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    He's elite, not quite great.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    Yeah, Barrera, Morales and Pacqiuao are almost certainly more beloved the World over than Cotto. Without a doubt. It's because they're more highly regarded that they have more negative things being said about them, which might make it seem they're less loved.

    I guess most don't see Cotto as a threat to the upper echelon so don't feel the need to bash him to try and big up their man. Therefore it only seems to be positive things being said about him, although there was a hate thread on here not long ago.