Why all the man love for Miguel Cotto?

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Velardez made some comments about Morales' family after beating Erik's brother. Maybe it was disrespectful but the guy may have also deserved a bit of gloating. I'm not sure what was actually said though, so if someone could inform me, that'd be great.
     
  2. stittyb

    stittyb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So many reasons to love the guy. Remember the face of with Margo, when Margo said he was prepared to die in the ring? And Cotto said that was stupid. How many fighters make these claims they're prepared to die in the ring? Maybe some are, but most are just talking bravado. Not Miguel, he tells it how it is. He just gets in and fights, nothing else.
     
  3. SkillspayBills

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    Yep, i have to admit i had tears in eyes when he cried talking about the late Don Miguel Snr. Guy's what a boxer should be!.
     
  4. dftaylor

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    De La Hoya. 147 was ridiculous.
     
  5. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Nope. What was ridiculous was De La Hoya signing the fight in the first place. Don't forget, Oscar dragged Manny up 2 divisions to fight him. He was the one that 'cherry picked' Manny. Oscar was the money man in the fight, and everyone expected him to knock Manny out. Little did we know he was dead inside
     
  6. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    That ****ing staredown at the beginning of fights, probably.
     
  7. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I think the whole reason is that Cotto, largely, has just been about the fights. He doesn't manufacture controversy, he's generally kept his private life out of the limelight (other than banging half of PR in between fights), and he doesn't get into ridiculous macho-fests with his opponents. The only real out-of-ring dramas have been with his uncle and with Margarito - and in the second case at least he acted with serious class (putting a brick through your uncle's windshield is a bit silly).

    He's softened since his loss to Margarito as a person, smiling more, but in the ring he's implacable. The only time I've seen him looking completely lost in the ring was against Manny, an ATG and with the most clueless corner I've ever witnessed.

    I suspect a lot of the most ardent pro-Cotto posters on here are (like me) similar ages with Miguel, so there's that element of growing up with him. He's just a proper man - he believes in family, isn't afraid of his emotions, trains hard for every fight, and stands up for himself.

    Outside of that, look at his record. Most of his opposition since winning his first title has been top ten quality in the division. That's impressive in this day and age. He's never whined like Paul Williams, never melted down like Cintron.

    If you look at the current welter and light-middle landscape, how many guys would you pick to beat him? Two, and he's faced one of them already and is about to face the other. That's bloody impressive.

    How could you not love the guy?
     
  8. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    You could argue that for everyone else then. It was a silly thing to stipulate. Yeah, Oscar shouldn't have signed, but Roach KNEW Oscar was tight at 154 having trained him. It was pretty shameless, but a very smart business move for Top Rank, Manny and HBO.

    I've no issue with it, but it puts a question mark over the win, especially with the two catchweights with Cotto and Margarito. Cotto, meanwhile, has never asked for a catchweight other than the Margarito rematch - and that was understandable given how Tony used an unfair advantage in the first fight.
     
  9. perspicacity

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    The biggest thing that stands out to me is that Cotto fought Margarito and gave us an epic fight whilst Mayweather "retired".
     
  10. Vano-Irons

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    I don't really think Manny knocking 2lb off Cotto made too much of a difference to the fight, just like Cotto knocking 1lb off Margo didn't make a difference either. Both are legit wins IMO.

    As for your post above, that's exactly what I was looking for David :good

    I know you're a massive Cotto fan, and I was looming forward to seeing what you had to say. I do like him as a fighter. Always fighting the best, and he seems a nice guy to match. I've just never had that amount of love for him that everyone else seems to have.

    I suppose a 'who do you have more love for, Cotto or Marquez' thread would lead to some interesting debate
     
  11. perspicacity

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    I think Oscar knew what he was doing, money talks and I think Oscar knew he'd struggle in this but that it would open the gateway (for GBP) to make superfights regardless of weightclass. I know there has always been weight-jumping but I think with Manny having fought at SFW not long before this and Oscar at Middlewieght, ........ they kicked down any barriers here and opened the floodgates for possible fights we wouldn't normally take serious all in the name of big bucks.
     
  12. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Pac fight was Oscar's fault. He was meant to rematch Floyd who 'retired'. Then he said he'd fight the winner of Cotto/Margarito but cooled off on that after Margo's performance.

    And Pac asking Cotto to fight at 145 wasn't that bad, he weighed 146 against Clottey the fight before.
     
  13. Vano-Irons

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    :deal

    I didn't know Oscar was going to fight the Cotto - Margo winner tho. That surely would have been held somewhere around 154. That certainly would have been an interesting fight if Oscar wasn't completely hollowed out
     
  14. GazOC

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    Not bad from a matchup point of view but it shouldn't have been a welterweight title fight. I like Pac but that pissed me off.
     
  15. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    There was some talk after Floyd announced his 'retirement' but IIRC Oscar (and everyone else) expected Cotto to win and he wasn't that keen on Margo.