Why are American fighters so protected?

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  1. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Many of them refuse to leave home and the old line 'the usa is where the money is' will be thrown around. Look at Ward...doesnt leave home....americans claims its because its where the money is...yet Kessler and Froch the two 'losers' in the Super 6 are earning more and drawing larger crowds since the end of the tournament.....so that's that myth destroyed.

    Lets look at the HW scene, Wilder 28 fights, Haye 28 fights......

    we here yanks calling Haye a bum and a big mouth.....yet hes held 3 titles at CW and 1 at HW, hes fought some big names..hes also been handily beated by Wlad but put up probably the hardest test for him in many years.

    Wilder on the other hand (does travel, gets my respect for that, more for him than Ward), yet after 28 fights...the same amount as haye....his biggest win is Audley Harrison!

    If Haye is a bum and a big mouth for being a two weight champion after 28 fights....what is wilder after the same amount of fights? in which beating a 40 year old audley is the highlight of his career?


    why is ward fighting in america when europe is where the money is at?

    why is wilder so protected? is he another american-level hypejob?
     
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  2. iceman71

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    why is your mom also your sister? :huh
     
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  3. Arran

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    mom? you mean mum...im not form birmingham.
     
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  4. Robney

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    American fighters get more protected building up to a titlefight, carefully picking easy targets.
    Once having a belt the quality of opposition is normally pretty good.

    British fighters however fight better opponents earlier in their careers until they pick up a belt.
    Then they carefully pick the least deserving challengers and domestic matchups for as long as humanly possible until they fight a good opponent and lose the belt.

    Exception to that rule is Carl Froch.
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    If this was a Mexican poster who brought up Mexican fighters rather than a British poster who brought up British fighters, I would stay away.

    But you're a Brit with an agenda.

    What you say is laughable. British fighters fight... British fighters or other obscure Europeans until they get to the world stage where they often get exposed in one way or another and never reach the acclaim their passionate British fans desired.

    That's why the terms "domestic fighter" and "domestic match up" exists. Because otherwise it would just be cards stacked with "low level prospect" vs. "journeyman" or "decent world prospect" vs. "journeyman" or "low level world class fighter" vs. "another journeyman."
     
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  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    mum is as gay as you calling soccer "football"

    but whatever....
     
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  7. Arran

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    its called football because its foot to ball....nfl being called 'football' is ****ing gay....especially since the worlds first football club is like 100 years older than the worlds first nfl club.....americans copy everything we do...langauge, television programs, sports....even you national past time is english, baseball!

    i know...im gonna go and create a sport with a bat and ball and call it 'basketball'....then wonder why nobody in the usa embraces it...the same way nobody embraces nfl outisde the usa...because they gave it a **** name that was already in use!
     
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  8. Thuggin'

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    Ward don't gotta leave the states.

    America the home of boxing, and Ward runs the division, they need to come to him
     
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  9. Arran

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    ward earns peanuts :rofl
     
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  10. Nonito Smoak

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    But beats all of the best fighters he can face. And beats them decisively.


    Would you rather a boxer earn money or take and win the best fights? Obviously, this is for the fan who has no monetary gain from another mans' earnings.
     
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  11. Arran

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    if he can beat anyone why does he stay in oakland with a 6000 crowd earning peanuts? why was he protected during the super 6, only fighter to stay at home all tournament....remember...no americans won on the road...coincidence?
     
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  12. Thuggin'

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    then he'll be content with Froch and Kesslers Euro-soles
     
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  13. Arran

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    forch and kessler are earning double what ward did in his last fight and fighting in front of more than 3x the crowd ward did...so who are the losers?
     
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  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    The losers are both Kessler and Froch, buddy.

    Kessler may have won 1 round, and Froch won 3.

    They got completely and thoroughly outclassed by Ward. They were dominated in fights equal to that of Rigondeaux over Donaire.
     
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  15. Nonito Smoak

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    Hate to break it to you, but Froch over Glen was the only European to win on the road either.

    And the only controversy of any kind in the tourney was Froch's hometown victory over Dirrell.
     
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