Why are americans the best?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Infern0, Nov 4, 2008.


  1. Manjanek

    Manjanek ESB Double Whopper Full Member

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    PBF, BHOP, Pavlik, Dawson, Bradley, Wright,

    We still are number one... just not at heavyweight.
    And as far as ATGs... we have the world beat.
     
  2. Feiti

    Feiti Active Member Full Member

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    I think you are probably talking about Muslim countries there and third world countries.
     
  3. Feiti

    Feiti Active Member Full Member

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    PBF is retired. BHOP and Wright will probably retire soon too. The US still probably has more top boxers than any other country, but not more than the rest of the world. As far as ATGs the US probably has more than the rest of the world indeed.
     
  4. stonerose

    stonerose Guest

    there was an intersting thread the other week listing each countries top three fighters. i'd put calzaghe, haye and hatton in with americas top three anyday. hopkins ,dawson and pavlik would probably be theirs , one HOF'er who is getting on , one relatively untested and one who has just been exposed as very one dimensional indeed .
     
  5. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    britian is very succesful considering it is the size of a flake compared to america
    so considering the amount of top fighters and former world champs
    in ratio i would say britian is better
     
  6. pugilist64

    pugilist64 Guest

    They are the best in their own minds.
     
  7. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because none had to fight eastern europeans. :yep
    (they used to be banned from participating remember ? )
    Same goes with the Cubans btw...(all banned)
     
  8. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah were much better pound 4 pound... :yep
     
  9. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Technically...you don't. "the world" means what it means...

    Only problem is that if you actually pay attention to the "all time great"
    professional records...

    You'll notice that most of them fought 90 if not 95% of "american" competiton.

    Look it up for yourself...very little international competition...(and when it's the case , it is never or rarely against eastern euro competition )

    Foreman
    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=000090&cat=boxer

    Ali
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000180

    Tyson
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000474

    Holyfield
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000499

    (do i even bother with the rest ?)...

    The only legit exception to that rule , is Mr Lennox Lewis.

    Speaking of which...most of the "ALTG"...were lucky that there weren't such a thing as a lennox lewis during their era...(same goes with the white ones...)

    There's a difference between feeding on white HW "american" cans...or "white hopes" as americans love to put it...and eastern euro ones..
     
  10. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Significant areas of urban poverty is another reason why the US has had such a great heritage.
     
  11. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well said!

    With champions like Calzaghe, Hatton and David Haye out there currently, on ratio the UK is probably on top due to its size (or lack of).
     
  12. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Duran, Lewis, not up there with the best?....get ****ed off, dick
     
  13. Uppercut83

    Uppercut83 The Quitschkos are bums Full Member

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    They padded their records with Ameri-bums, they refused to fight the quality EUROPEAN OPERATOR :rofl
     
  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Americans are/were the best,they had most of the biggest fighters in history...look at a top 10 ATG list to see...nowadays there aren't as many good american fighters as europeans or about the same