Why are boxers afraid of brain damage these days?

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFL Floyd was the aggressor against Pacquaio ??? Ive never seen him do anything aggressive since he left 135. Except that cowardly combination he hit an unprotected & vulnerable Victor Ortiz with. He should have been DQ'd for that punk move. I think you may be the troll if you thought Floyd was aggrressive
     
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  2. West of Hollywood

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    You said something stupid in the sense that no sane person wants a loved one or themself to suffer brain damage. However with any kind of contact sport there is the question of how much risk are you going to take? Are you willing to sell your soul to the devil to live in the here and now and gain as much money and fame as possible? Most fighters don't have the immense talent of a Mayweather and have to take more risks and be more aggressive and consequently get hit more to fill the seats. And lets be honest, don't safety first fighters like Jimmy Young tend to get roundly criticized and don't get the benefit of the doubt in close fights? On the other hand fighters like Gatti who put their brains and bodies on the line get the admiration and big pay days despite frequent losses.
     
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  3. Makingweight

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    You could look back at guys like George Chuvalo who took insane punishment and his faculties were intact for decades after retiring.

    Last I read his health has taken a downward turn but he's 86.

    Some great risk adverse fighters from bygone days have been totally opposite, retired or gone on too long and their health has deteriorated quickly.

    Any sport there is risk boxing it's obvious.

    NFL lots of sad stories of CTE I also believe Rugby Union will see many cases in the future, boxers in the past have fought concussed I would be amazed if it wasn't the case in NFL, Rugby also there is no doubt more awareness but for many it's after the horse has bolted.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Fans like you are honestly much worse for the sport than anything you complain about.
     
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  5. tinman

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    It was an incredibly callous post, but there is a relationship between fan entertainment and damage taken by the fighters. The nature of the sport is exploitative and therefore a guilty pleasure. So, I'm not proud of the fact that Hagler-Hearns is my kind of fight, but it is what it is.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yes but fighters shouldn't be lambasted for not giving us Hagler vs. Hearns levels of savagery as more is learned and disseminated by the medical community about CTE.

    The whole "it's your job to get brain damage for my entertainment, sissy" mentality is disgusting - especially coming from people that would probably be in tears and puking from a jab.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Question though, should fighters like Hagler-Hearns be elevated and praised in the boxing community for the courage to fight in incredibly savage bouts?
     
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  8. Rob_V

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    Did I read that correctly?

    Floyd was the bull and aggressor

    In that case your trolling is even more astronomically inaccurate as OPs

    Still waiting to see those imaginary exaggerated Compu power punches that actually landed

    We'll wait
     
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  9. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brain damage aside, you have a better chance of winning a fight the less you get hit.
     
  10. Rob_V

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    Delusions of Grandeur comes to mind
     
  11. IntentionalButt

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    Of course but it also was a different time when such things weren't as well understood, so it shouldn't be propped up as the ideal standard anymore.

    If two guys in the heat of battle want to engage in a bloody pier-six-brawl FOTY, then great. Fingers crossed that neither is stretchered out, nor collapses in the locker room. If you asked me is any entertainment value worth repeating my experience watching Sergey Kovalev inadvertently kill Roman Simakov, however, the answer is no. I'd rather let the combatants decide to err on the side of caution free of armchair judgment.

    Heavy leather wars are great, but each one that results in a death or coma ought to make it a little more uncomfortable to be fans of a blood sport.
     
  12. box33

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    Great fights that keep them talked about & associated with the industry, sometimes it only takes one of those kinds of fights and/or efforts to transform a fighters legacy or impression of them especially to the masses.
     
  13. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think they already do as you can see them always being mentioned even my the newer generation not to mention all the media, apps & promotional companies that use their fight highlights as their headline openers to events, it's a given especially next towards the normal everyday man who isn't able to reach such an height hence the superstar label that the those fighters earn along the way.
     
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  14. tinman

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    I felt this part. I did wrestling in high school. Dabbled a little bit in boxing and had a couple amateur fights. Ended up getting tagged really hard in one my first fights (with headgear and not by a world class pro) and took a knee and quit and never boxed again. It's embarrassing to admit, but it's the truth. Decided this wasn't for me. The guy in the OP and all those with his attitude fail to grasp how unbelievably hard these men are and how much cajones it takes to really get into a grueling ring war against a world class pro. Few people are willing to go there. Many fighters turn into vegetables in the 2nd half of their lives and some get carried out on a stretcher and some even die after a bout. If you put these guys like the OP in a ring it would not take long for them to change their attitudes.
     
  15. box33

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    Nicely said man & most would do the same as life is hard as it is to begin with.
     
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