Why are boxers of the past always the greatest?

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  1. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you.

    If you take that line of thinking then everyone after the 1950's were overrated bums.
     
  2. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think credit is more earned after you retire.
     
  3. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    More fights, more rounds, more adversity; and more leeway to actually prove their resumes and toughness.. Hard to compile a resume of tons of lineal titles and ranked contenders if matchmaking is so damn hard and you're only fighting a couple times a year at the highest level. It's hard to become a complete fighter if you're not actually fighting a lot, right? A sword gets rusty if you don't sharpen it and martial artists are the same. Plus I feel that a lot of the best champions and boxers never end up wanting to pass on any of their knowledge to the next generation either. TV killing local fight venues definitely hurt the growth of fighters.

    Today's dudes are stronger and faster due to sports science advancements(that includes PEDS) but the experience and resumes arent there.
     
  4. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Check out these rankings for HW's from late 60's and 1970's. It's obvious that historians at that time didn't think much of the 'golden age of heavyweights'

    Nat Fleischer, Founder of Ring Magazine, 1958, 1971.

    Jack Johnson

    Jim Jeffries

    Bob Fitzsimmons

    Jack Dempsey

    Jim Corbett

    Joe Louis

    Sam Langford

    Gene Tunney

    Max Schemling

    Rocky Marciano




    Charley Rose, 1968

    Sam Langford

    Jack Johnson

    Jack Dempsey

    Joe Louis

    Jim Jeffries

    Gene Tunney

    Sam McVey

    Rocky Marciano

    Jim Corbett

    Max Baer




    World Boxing 1974 Readers Poll

    Joe Louis

    Jack Dempsey

    Rocky Marciano

    Jack Johnson

    Muhammad Ali

    Joe Frazier

    Gene Tunney

    Jim Jeffries

    Sonny Liston

    Ezzard Charles




    Nat Loubet, 1975

    Joe Louis

    Jack Dempsey

    Jim Jeffries

    Jack Johnson

    Rocky Marciano

    Gene Tunney

    Bob Fitzsimmons

    James J. Corbett

    Muhammad Ali

    Joe Frazier




    John Durant -Author of "The Heavyweight Champions" (1976)

    Joe Louis

    Jack Johnson

    Jack Dempsey

    Muhammad Ali

    Gene Tunney

    Joe Frazier

    Jim Jeffries

    James J. Corbett

    Rocky Marciano

    Max Schemling




    Bill Brennan 1978 (Former President of the WBA)

    Muhammad Ali

    Joe Louis

    Jack Dempsey

    Jack Johnson

    Gene Tunney

    Jim Jeffries

    Max Schemeling

    Rocky Marciano

    James J. Corebett

    Bob Fitzsimmons




    Big Book of Boxing Reader Poll, 1978

    Joe Louis

    Muhammad Ali

    Rocky Marciano

    Jack Dempsey

    Jack Johnson

    Gene Tunney

    Joe Frazier

    Jim Jeffries

    Ezzard Charles

    Sonny Liston
     
  5. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a pretty solid statement.
     
  6. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i can se an old vitali beating old foreman and a prime vitali beating prime foreman
     
  7. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    The oldies paid their dues. Believe me, if fighters today werent paid so lucrative, theyd fight more often. Elite fighter Im referring too. You guys really think todays fighters are that much stronger watch an episode of Last Man Standing. These huge, modern day athlete gym rats take on ancient tribesmen and get their asses handed to them in every dept. Stamina, speed, even strength alot of times. Like saying Lawrence Taylor or Barry Sanders would suck in todays NFL you know that aint true.
     
  8. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ^
    I couldn't find the original article by Ring founder
    This content is protected
    , but someone already wrote about it.
     
  9. infandibulum

    infandibulum the bacchus Full Member

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    Right now is quite a short space of time.

    The legitimately judgeable past in boxing is around 70 years give or take.

    There are far more fighters from the past so it's going to provide a larger amount of dominant boxers, isn't it. It's just like someone hearing the top ten singles this week and saying "music was better in the 60s"
     
  10. USboxer1981

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  11. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right, and I can see even David Haye doing ok in the 70s.
    No, he probably wouldn't beat Foreman, but I see him beating a lot of the top ten fighters of that era..