Why are English fighters on the butt end of everyones jokes here?

Didn't expect a better response from a fool. If you think that post is wrong then prove me otherwise please. Point out moments in Froch's career where he proved any of my comments wrong.

 

Ok im gonna put Americas top 15 and UKs top 15. You might question Nonito,Mares,Segura,Andrade but both these guys lived here since they were little kids and learned to box in California so this makes them Cali fighters. Margarito was born in Torrance,Ca and lives in West Covina,Ca = Californian.

1. Tim Bradley close matchup Bradley more proven 1.Amir Kahn
2.Shane Mosley Mosley still ranked higher 2. David Haye
3.Andre Ward Pretty Obvious whos better 3. Carl Froch
4.Abner Mares light years ahead of >> 4.Ryan Rhodes
5.Nonito Donnaire this is a no brainer> 5.Ola Afalobi
6.Antonio Margarito Tony would Kill Witter 6. Junior Witter
7.Robert Guerrero one a world champ>>Prospect 7. Kell Brook
8.Victor Ortiz I think ive proved my point 8.Matt Macklin
9.Giovanni Segure ill still continue though 9.Rendall Munroe
10.Steve Luevano 10.John Murray
11.Liberado Andrade 11.Kevin Mitchell
12.Mikey Garcia 12.Matt Hatton
13.Chris Arreola 13.Paul Mccloskey
14.BJ Flores 14.Darrin Barker

Ok its obvious whos better . Maybe i should have included has beens like Gavin Rees,Herbie Hide since they are still better than some of your guys up there.

Cali ko 3 UK:bbb actually it might be a 1st round ko since i have it 12-0 California. You can make a case for Mosley being old but he is still rated on many pfp list.

 

Mosley still ranked higher by who? oh yeah....an american company. Lets look at this seriously. In the past 3 years David Haye has been to Mormecks home town and took 2 belts, fought enzo in a domestic dust up and took another belt, basically clearing the division (some people will disagree). Hes then moved up won the WBA belt in Germany, and stopped Ruiz for the first time in his career, 4 belts in 2 divisions.....Mosley....on the other hand (a drugs cheat) has lot 2 in 5, winning a vacant title along the way and the WBA strap. So really, how can you possibly rank him higher? Like I said, american companies/corps ranking americans higher....major suprise, you americans also ranked Lacy above Calzaghe remember?

Donnaire is not a californian, moving their at 11 does not make him american or californian....the Philpino gumshield he always wears hardly helps your point.

Margarito.....another cheat.

Our top 3 ko your top 3: Froch, Haye, Khan or Bradley, Mosley (drugs cheat), Ward.....I know who I would rather have right now.

 

Well, that is correct.Most american trained boxerers have won accolades like KO of the year, boxer of the year, fight and fighter of the year, pnd for pnd and the list goes on and on just on a different level to the rest.

 

**** off ****

 

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great talent, can read a book upside down.

 

Fifty years at 2% interest is extremely charitable, a fact even the BBC recognizes-- you dumb ****.

"But the terms of the loan were extremely generous, with a fixed interest rate of 2% making it considerably less terrifying than a typical mortgage."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4757181.stm

You might consider the words of Professor Mark Harrison (per the same article):

"In a nutshell, everything we got from America in World War II was free."

Yeah, we were really money driven, *******. Moreover, if we were so $ driven, why did we extend credit to you despite the fact that you assholes hadn't paid off your WWI debt????

Yeah, that's right, *******, you STILL owe us from WWI!

You don't like to hear the horse-**** about "you'd be speaking German if not for the US?" Funny, we're tired of hearing the horse**** how you fought Germany "for two years all alone."

The war was hardly "lost" for the Wehrmacht the second it invaded the Soviet Union. For example, at any time, Hitler and the OKW could have reigned in its aspirations in the East (ie settle for less territory, say just the Ukraine and Belarus) to something palatable enough for a peace accord with Stalin. Then where would the UK have been without US assistance??

Nor did we have to assist you at all, you silly ****. We don't owe you ****. Say, for instance, we observed popular sentiment in America at the time and stayed out of the war, or worse, struck an accord with Hitler. What the **** do you think would have happened to Britain then??? :rofl

And if, by your own claim, the war was lost the second the Wehrmacht invaded the Soviet Union, the States could have stayed out of the Euro war and have been no worse for the wear for that decision.

So shut the **** up.

 

Ridiculous. The entire post.

You do realize Malignaggi isn't even a top 3 American jww, maybe not top 5, and Khan, who is very good, is no doubt your best guy.

But that's it in a nutshell right there. A top British fighter will be an American also ran and suddenly there is some kind of competition.

I love the guys who keep bringing up Lacy and Calzaghe. If the best point to be made is one fight that occurred 5 years ago.........well.......

 

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Bring it, tough guy. I am enjoying these debates with you "sophisticated" Brits. :rofl:rofl

 

never ceases to amaze me when americans use ''you would be speaking german....'' in ENGLISH.


How could the US have stayed out of the Euro war exactly? Germany declared war on you!!!!!

 

meh good to see our descendants doing well wherever they go. Australia/America.

u Americans shouldn't need a visa to come here, after all it is you homeland :rofl

 

Hoopsman you seem to keep avoiding my questions.

 

Getting down to business with the worst dictator of recent times? You got that right-- British financial assistance helped facilitate Hitler and the NAZI's ascension to power. :rofl:rofl

So spare us the moral preening, *******. This is, indeed, exhibit A of your ****ing mind-numbing hypocrisy.

Is it moral for American companies to deal with Hitler while Americans died? Absolutely not. However, to the extent that it happened-- indeed if it even happened (I am not sold on Charles Higham's thesis)-- judgment should be passed down by Americans, not **** Brits who aided Hitler's rise to begin with. Not, again, by Brits who have centuries of immoral behavior under their belts as a matter of policy (see colonialism).

Get it now, dummy???

Finally, how the **** did the US "sit back and stay out of it" until Germany declared war on us? Did FDR not authorize in May of 1941 the building of merchant shipping for use in transiting supplies to UK despite the risk of being sunk by the Germans??? Were American naval vessles not employed to protect convoys-- and at great risk to themselves-- transiting materials to the UK prior to Germany's declaration of war in Dec. 1941???

Was the USS Reuben James not sunk by a German U-boat in Ocotber of 1941, two months prior to Germany's declaration of war on the US???

So, answer my question: is it not hypocrisy in the extreme for a Brit-- with your sordid history-- to lecture the US on a lack of morals?? :rofl

Britain= colonial oppression before morals

 

We are dealing with counterfactuals here, you nitwit.

How could we have stayed out of the Euro war? Well, for starters, we could have struck an accord with Hitler's Germany, no?

Is there any law that says the United States had to align itself with Great Britain?

Given the marked superiority of the German armed forces to those of the British, if we were truly an immoral nation motivated by self-interest alone, we would have worked to craft or forge an alliance with Hitler's Germany.