Why are English fighters on the butt end of everyones jokes here?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TerryESB, May 31, 2010.


  1. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So its "ok" to murder hundreds then?? We've killed more in Iraq this year? Prove that we deliberately opened fire on thousands of protesting Iraqis and killed 400+ and wounded over a 1000. If not, then shut the **** up.

    Why would we have had to get across, you dope?? If we had stayed out of the war, we wouldn't have needed a jump off point.

    Get the production going and then cross to South America?? :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Yeah, because that's like soooo easy to pull off. :rofl

    On the question of millions, how millions were enslaved or killed over the course of British colonialism???
     
  2. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your capacity for understanding the concept of counterfactual history is about as impressive as your arguments to date.

    Goodbye, dummy.
     
  3. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    of course it wouldnt be easy, but no war in europe would mean a ever expanding german umbrella under which people would have been forced to work many hours keeping the war machine going (as they were), from spain to morrooc is what 60 miles? once they had everything in place they could have eventually crossed, even if it had taked 5 years, but like i said, its all ifs and buts.

    many people died due to british colonialism, but its the US doing it today, not britian. Its obviously done very differently today with newer technology, but you are no better than we were, look how many democratically elected governemts you have topped, or up-risings you have caused. You probably wont get to see it in your lifetime, but when Chinas running thigs in 100 years or so, your grand-kids will be thinking ''we were once like them'', ****ing over ebery other country who doesnt brown-nose you. And by the way, no doubt many were killed, but today they are under the british commonwealth umbrella which makes them alot better off than they would be not under it, not that this brings back the dead.

    Just one video, im sure i can find many more

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KANYo8Jv64E[/ame]
     
  4. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did I miss the part where 400+ Iraqis were killed and over 1000 wounded in that video??

    Have British forces committed any attrocities in Iraq??

    As for your assertion that the US is aping Britian of yesteryear, sorry but that's merely a transparent attempt to absolve or minimize your own sins by shifting the conversation to the United States. It is, in fact, a tried and true tactic of Euros (especially Brits). Essentially, the rationale amounts to: the more vociferously I protest supposed American misbehavior on the global stage, the more I can obfuscate the manifestly more destructive sins of my own nation.

    You are the living, breathing, personification of the tactic.

    Sure, we toppled governments during the Cold War. What's your mitigating circumstance for colonizing India???

    Some Indian scholars place the "avoidable" (their term, not mine) deaths as a result of British colonialism in India at 1.8 billion.

    Reflect on that the next time you feel inclined to chastize the sins of the Unted States.
     
  5. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    How is our colinization any worse than yours then? You tried to topple south american governments too, what do they have to do with the cold war? what did australia in the late 70s have to do with the cold war?

    Latest estimates are 105,000 innocent iraqis dead since the invasion. You are on a roll!
     
  6. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With respect to the video you posted, I have seen it before. Bill Roggio debunked the myth of a "masscre" some weeks back.

    Perhaps, in the interest of balance, you ought to read his clinical dissection:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/collateral-murder-baghdad-anything
     
  7. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, tubby...........because we have never engaged in colonialism, and we sure as **** have never been responsible for the deaths of ..... wait for it.....

    1.8 billion Indians.

    Correct me if I am wrong, tubby, but wasn't the UK a participant in the invasion of Iraq?? Or are we conveniently forgetting that salient point?

    Was South America some how off limits during the Cold War?? :rofl

    Nor do I intend to take your Australia assertion at face value.
     
  8. Arran

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    So even today India has a population of 1.1 billion, im supposed to believe we killed nearly double the population of India? I think you have your figures wrong, show me a source, one respectable source.

    you have never engaged in colonialism? you do it today, you have bases all over the world, you are about to stick us missile systems in poland, this is no different to what we did. just in a different technilogical age.


    the cold war ended...what 91?

    So what did the 2002 failded coupe of Chavez have to do with that? or the removal democratically elected president aristide in 2004 in Haiti?
    or the 50,000 you killed in Nicarague in 1990? or Panama in 89 that left 2000 dead? how about these? I suppose this doesnt count as colonialism, because you say so, but fact is, you are doing exactly what we did.
     
  9. rushman

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    I find that figure really, really hard to believe. Impossible to believe.

    At the time when Britain colonized india, the whole population of the planet was less than that.

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates[/ame]
     
  10. di tullio

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    you should hear the history channel's estimate on how many aztecs cortes killed. they didn't even mention disease.
     
  11. sarfpore

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    Because ALL englishmen are wankers.
     
  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah but those numbers are there to get the watchers. These numbers have to be spectacular.
     
  13. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    it is spelt correctly you dick.ass a sin, not assassin.:-(
     
  14. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    sure you can read it.have a go,i'm sure you could if you try hard enough.you still didn;t answer the question.

    p.s your a cocky little **** aren't you.:roll:
     
  15. assasin

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    :rofl:roflyea,your right.americans fight in everyones country all the time don't they.:nono