Why are people now saying Crawford is greater than Mayweather?

You drank thr Floyd Kool Aid, it makes you the opposite of smart.

 

Say what you want but Floyd was almost KOd by ATG/GOAT Maidana, old af Mosley, and never fought 1 single elite opponent near their prime. Hell, ODLH ein was legitimately 7-5...imagine Oscar 5 years prior? With Floyd Sr as his trainer? Imagine if Floyd actually fought Margarito in ~2008 or if he ever fought Paul Williams or didnt need catchweights or rehydration clauses. Imagine if Floyd made weight (144) for JMM or if Floyd ever unified any division or if Floyd fought any one of those propsects coming up (Brook, Thurman, Lara, etc.).

Floyd is an ATG but its recency bias to say he's TBE. A bunch of boxers that grew up watching him admire him especially the financial aspect but he wouldnt beat the most boxers ever. There's a host of guys in his own era he might not have beaten at different timelines. ODLH and Manny are 2 that come to mind, younger Mosley would be a possibility, Margarito wouldve been interesting, Lara/Thurman/Brook wouldve been interesting. Floyd would be favored to win all of those fights but its important to be objective...Floyd prolly shouldve lost Maidana 1 or at least a draw...he got the A side treatment and then proceeded to pick his gloves and the ref in the 2nd fight. He also should have a draw against JLC in their 1st fight.

Nearly every fighter has those moments. As many have pointed out Crawford was losing wide to Dulorme before the stoppage. Canelo and Manny had these types of fights too (GGG, JMM, for example). Andre Ward has those fights (Kovalev, etc.). BHop had those fights as has Inoue (Donaire 1) or Usyk (Briedis).

Bud presents unique challenges that I cant say Floyd would manage with ease. There's nothing Floyd does (to me) that thinks Bud would have been dominated. Bud is just as long as Floyd and also a tactician. Bud is also far meaner than Floyd which, like it or not, means something in a fight. Think of Victor Ortiz vs Maidana, for example, where Victor showed how heartless he was and literally quit. Floyd wouldnt quit and always bit down but I dont know if he had Bud's tenacity. Teddy Atlas said Crawford might have the best fighting instinct he's ever seen...and Teddy has been around boxing.

Bud Crawford from the Spence fight would be live versus any WW in history. Floyd from Mosley fight would also be live versus any WW in history. Those nights were SPECIAL performances.

 

What's this myth about Maidana vs Floyd where people think the fight was close. It wasn't, it was competitive ok but still what 8-4 Floyd at best. I had it 9-3 personally. Floyd was never close to going down. Just a stupid revision of history by Floyd haters. I not even a fan of the guy.

 

Everybody that Crawford has beat, Floyd beats and beats comfortably.

Floyd probably wouldn't have fought Crawford at 147 I agree with that. Let's pump the brakes on Crawford let's see him beat a list of champions like Floyd did before we give him the top spot of ATG.

 

Remember how the discourse a decade or so ago was "Mayweather is the best in the welter range since Leonard, but isn't better than and wouldn't beat Leonard"?

Substitute in Crawford's name for Mayweather's and Mayweather's for Leonard's and, voila. There ya go.

 

This. However I'd love to see him in with a prime Floyd just to see what happens.

 

I'd love to see a round-robin between SRL, PBF and Bud just because they'd be brilliant fights. Would heavily favor each older generation fighter over each younger, but still.

 

In fight 1 if you scored 9-3 that's pretty atrocious. For fight 2, where Floyd clinched all day, 9-3 was a fair score.

In fight 2 the punch that Maidana landed was definitely the hardest I ever saw him hit and that includes Chop Chop Corley, Augustus, and even Mosley. Floyd definitely benefited from the round ending but no man or fighter is perfect. In all those instances Floyd responded like a champ and won those fights very clearly.

 

Just hold out a few more years and we'll be seeing AI generated versions of these fights to argue about.

 

Iz it The same Kool aid that Floyd Sr shook up for hatton???

 

It's alot of fans who haven't been following the sport for more than a decade. Floyd has never been Undisputed, but Crawford hasn't been unified in 2 divisions at the same time either. What sets them apart is obviously their resumes and who they've fought. Floyd is greater as of now, but Crawford has time to catchup.

 

I'd feel sorry for ur parents or teachers explaining something to u equalling to ur response like that

Should be a new term coined especially 4 special ppl like u

 

It’s called hate. I don’t like Floyd myself but there’s no way I can bring myself to say that Crawford would beat him. Crawford has done absolutely fu*king nothing to help us make an educated decision on whether or not he could beat Floyd.

The Spence fight has sent this forum crazy.

 

There is nothing to help us make an educated decision? How about Crawford knocking out all his WW opponents? Or Mayweather not fighting any legit WW in their prime? Also, specifically tell me how Floyd beats Crawford by potshotting with his usual low volume style, unless you think he changes his style to take far more risks against his best opponent.

I don't understand why people think Mayweather was so great. I'll give him that he was a great defensive fighter but he fought opponents who suited his style and his offense at WW was nothing special.