Why are people reluctant to speak the truth about FLOYD?

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Yes he ducked almost the entire welterweight division, but he also made a killing vs Oscar and Hatton.

    If he would have fought Margarito instead of Baldomir, who "beat" Judah, there is a much much great possiblity that Floyd would have had a much rougher time, may even lose, and that history could have been altered.

    We have to remember that Floyd is a businessman first and a boxer second, despite his comments saying that he's better than SRR, and actually publically disrespecting old man SRL. And while on the playground or in the pen, Floyd would have to prove that he was the best by fighting the most dangerous contenders, this is the business world. Floyd doesn't have to prove anything to anybody because like many wealthy members in society, he is protected by the system set up to make it possible for people to get away with such things.

    And I know there is 30 minutes of documented evidence of Floyd ducking Margarito, and while that's arguably the largest amount of evidence ever compiled of a fighter ducking an opponent, it doesn't mean that Floyd was scared.

    As I stated before, he's a business man, and he's been making smart business decisions. I just don't understand why some of his fanatics don't admit this to themselves, and as boxing FANS, at least wish that he would have shared his tallent with some of the better fighters in the welterweight division.
     
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  2. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Yeah, but I don't give a **** about all that bargaining ****. If I was interested in that, I would tell MTV to make that **** into a reality tv show and maybe my girl could watch it cuz she likes that type of ****.

    My point is all that **** is Hollywood and I don't care about that. And while I don't want to see fighters get hurt, as a boxing fan, I wanna see the best possible fights, and before Floyd decided to fight Baldomir, the informed boxing world knew that the riskier, more fan friendly fight was against Margarito.

    Like I said though, if Floyd fought Margarito, maybe he wouldn't have gotten that contract with DLH.
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    The truth is PBF was already an ATG before he touched the 147 pound divison.:deal But people act as if he needed to prove himself all over again despite a career of doing so. Anything PBF accomplished at 147 and 154 is just gravy he didn't even have to move up past 135 but he gets criticized for it despite facing much bigger men and still winning. Meanwhile limited fighters like Margo stay at one divison for years picking on smaller fighters and get praised for it. But when they have to move up in weight against bigger men they lose and run their ***** asses back down. Only to turn down rematches and face guys they made quit or shot fighters.
     
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  4. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    log off
     
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  5. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  6. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Based on which wins?
     
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  7. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    He blatantly ducked a division he managed to achieve lineage in by beating a lucky Baldomir who had won the lottery. And he's managed to self-promote himself as the "Greatest fighter of all time", greater than SRR, greater than anyone and by far the greatest fighter in his era.

    Looking at the statistics, Manny Pacquiao and Bernard Hopkins both are standing a notch above him, if he ever wants to prove he's the greatest even of his own era, he has to fight at least a primed elite fighter like Margarito or Cotto, or even PW.

    But he's now retired off of an unblemished, but highly questionable legacy.
    It's not like we're lacking of fighters around those weights, we manage with or without Floyd, its his loss.. not ours. And what I think hes thinking of, is that we're missing him like hes gone by a car crash or something, which is not true.:good
     
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  8. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't give Floyd grieve on fights he had. I give him grieve on fights he didn't have.
     
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  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    When Alexis Arguello moved to 140 he could have cherry picked. He could have fought Saoul Mamby and easily become the first man to win world titles in 4 divisions. Instead he told the world he wouldn't be the real champ unless he beat Pryor. Floyd never had those kind of balls.
     
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  10. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I agree with you on Floyd's tallent level, but because Floyd is such a great tallent, his legacy will be hurt by his attitude outside of the ring, and his reluctance to take the big fights at welter, despite being in or around his prime and not taking on the challenges that you would expect a guy who thinks he's the greatest of all time would take.

    You are right that Floyd doesn't have anything to prove in order for him to be an ATG, but because he ran his mouth, he has something to prove to boxing fans. And in order to prove this, he should be taking on some of the welterweights or at least fight Pac.

    The point of this thread is just asking why his fanatics don't admit that Floyd is a businessman first, and that he refused to take the riskier fights at welterweight in order to enhance his bank account.

    There is no shame in that. Everyone has a goal in life, and perhaps his was to have plenty of money and be able to provide for his family. That's fine, but because of the words that he spoke regarding himself and the fighters in the welterweight division, Floyd did duck the best fighters in that weight class.
     
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  11. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the problem i think has always him and his followers calling him the best at 140-147
    i am sick of hearing how floyd could beat joe because jon beat joe and floyd beat jon
    there was never any need for all of these fantasy matchups because welter was and still is stacked
    i don't blame him for taking the road he took,but i believe us as fans for making him rich deserved something back
    all past atg have fought the top contenders of their time in and around their respected divisions
     
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  12. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the career of Floyd Mayweather and the fights he has proves only one thing.

    no matter what a boxer does in the ring and no matter his skills some whining little ***** is going to complain in his seat and say complain about something, like he didnt fight whoever.

    Lets be honest Floyd beat the hell out of everyone, he had more skills than anyone, and has been the best boxer of the 21st century.

    bottom line to all you whining little bitches who find something to complain about every single fighter out there, go suck on your mommas titty, you cry baby ****s.
     
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  13. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    Pimp C and Orion Surprise Surprise, it's Floyd Mayweathers Henchmen, one to hold up his balls and one to pull back his foreskin. Just face facts Floyd Mayweather moved up in weight cherry picked and then wants to be given all the credit for just moving up in weight. The point of boxing and proving you are the best is to actually fight the best and a man with the amount of ability that Floyd has simply knows his limitations and any top WW would hand his arse back to him in a heart beat. Floyd at 147 is like watching WWE, its a ****ing big dramatic act trying to convince his dumbass supporters that he is the best by fighting lesser attibuted fighters.

    Williams, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Mosley, why is it that all these guys are here fighting each other except for pretty boy Floyd.

    You need to start questioning your man when he refuses to want to fight the best and at the same time claim to be better than SRR and SRL, give me a ****ING BREAK. NO POINT MOVING UP IN WEIGHT IF YOUR NOT GOING TO FIGHT THE BEST ESPECIALLY AFTER CLAIMING TO BE THE BEST OF ALL TIME, he should be put forward as an all time Dickhead
     
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  14. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea but they also lost during some of those fights and that's what Floyd fears the most...being defeated...not the fighters
     
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  15. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just wait for Scar and Eze to show up :-:)lol:
     
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