Why are the likes of carmen basilio a la motta looked at as great fighters ?

Fantastic thread with remarkable insight :good

This will change the way I look at boxing forever

 

Smh. . .

 

Hahaha I think Tocker Pudwill is taking his frustration out on two boxing greats. ..

 

Well Lamotta was smacked all over the damned place by welterweights Zivic and Robinson at 160. I see where you are coming from. Lamotta especially, would fair quite poorly against the best around his weight.

 

Didn't both of them beat a cat named ray Robinson? Wasn't he supposed to be a decent boxer?

 

Yup.

 

^ This

 

:rofl

 

Fighting against the best around, over 15rounds & 10 times a year?

That sounds like just the sort of thing Mayweather would do

 

They are great because they both beat SRR, they also fought the best of their era, If you would watch the footage of these guys you could see just how tough they really are. Angelo Dundee trained Carmen and said Carmen would show up for training always on time would wrap his own hands and train his ass off like no other. He never stepped in the ring out of shape. They both would fight anybody at any time. Their metal toughness alone make them both great.

 

all you really need to be at least HOFer is to beat Sugar Ray.


BIG if lol.

 

If you're looking for cleverly skilled fighters, they both fit the description. If you're looking for aesthetically pleasing styles, look somewhere else- but don't confuse the two. Flashy, fast, and efficient aren't the only ways to be skilled and effective.