Why Are There So Many Old Fighters Today?

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  1. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why are there so many 'champs' & contenders around now, that are at an age when fighters of all the other eras before would be washed up & accumulating losses?
     
  2. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably because they are so much more skillful than the old fighters, that they take less punishment in the ring.







    Easy now... I'm only joking!
     
  3. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Because it wasn't uncommon for fighters to have 70, 80 or more fights by the time they reach 30. Guys had to fight more than once a year to fatten their bank accounts. Now guys make 2-3 mil a fight, fighting nobodies and no hopes.
     
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  4. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL!

    I guess the 2 most logical ideas are that:

    1 - all the other eras had higher quality operators and fought better competition over more fight-packed careers, wearing them down quicker, or...

    2 - boxers, like all athletes, get better over time & the long, slow evolution suddenly came to fruition in this era.

    Sound reasonable? :D
     
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  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Fewer people getting in to boxing less good people to challenge
     
  6. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I saw the Tito Trinidad vs Campas fight this morning. Tito was 21 years old and 23-0 (19) and Campas was 23 and 56-0 (50). Then I saw this thread. You nailed it.
     
  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fewer career fights, fighters are brought along more slowly, more attention to defence, better knowledge of physiology, better PED's, higher safety standards, generally better discipline. Big heavies with big power also tend to age better than small heavies.

    I don't think this trend is unique to boxing.
     
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  8. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Like others have said, a much lower amount of fights. Also drug and alcohol abuse isn’t very common with todays batch.
     
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  9. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think a fighter can be elite in their weight class and be early to mid 30's today. That would be nearly unheard of back in the day.
     
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  10. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Far less fights. Diluted competition and proliferation of extra titles. PEDs.
     
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  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Less fights and starting pro late.
     
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  12. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Combination of:

    1) Fewer fights relative to previous eras = less wear and tear
    2) Fewer fights = fighters are older when they get big fight experience, so reach prime later
    3) Improved sports science for training, diet, supplements and probably PEDs, so they remain in physical prime longer
    4) Fighters at top of p4p rankings have highest profile. Fewer fights mean some fighters are older before they've built a profile big enough to get the big fights they need to rank at the top
     
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  13. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    according to ESPN the average length of career in North American major sports is as follows MLB 5.6 years, NHL 5.5 years, NBA4.8 years, NFL 3.5 years, MLS 3.2 years. I'd interpret this as meaning Boxers are lasting until their late thirties early forties because of a lack of young talent coming into the sport and lack of fights to develop the talent that does come into the sport.
     
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  14. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    There is the another element that has positively impacted, that being advances in sports medicine, injuries and health conditions that in bygone eras were career ending or limiting are now routinely treatable.

    Even things like footwear boxers wore for roadwork were not ideal as either boots were worn or light soled shoes, neither good for your joints/spine with the constant jolting at each step.

    The physio role within training camp now does a lot of injury prevention work eg none of the old touching toes while standing for stretches, no neck rolls, constantly looking at low impact training to supplement/minimise roadwork to limit injury to lower limb joints.
     
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  15. Easyrhino

    Easyrhino Member Full Member

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    Have you seen the boxing records of old fighters? These guys fought practically every month or more and they're simply worn out:

    SRR: 201 fights
    Monzon: 200 fights
    LaMotta: 106 total fights
    Graziano: 86 fights
    Dick Tiger: 82 fights
    Marcel Cerdan: 114 fights
    Tony Zale: 87 fights
    Emile Griffith: 112 fights

    By contrast Ray Leonard had only 40 pro fights
     
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