why are todays boxers only remembered for their losses.

:good

 

I agree with this whole heartedly (except the Valuev bit )

I always greatly admire the courage it takes for a fighter to come back from a loss -especially a devestating one- and go on to achieve great things. Infact I would go so far as to say the biggest challenge of a fighters career comes when he had to build his career back up from losing. When everything is going well and your obliterating your opposition it's fine but when you lose and your backs against the wall that's when we really see what their made of.

 

We are in a world of perfection these days, we like to see "immortal fighters" When someone loses once we dismiss them. Glad to see Manny has shrugged off his losses and has shown that with hard work and dedication things can be turned away

 

HAHAHAH! Your system is just messed up! I am Canadian and work in the financial service sector, our financial system is highly regulated. Regulation does not mean government run it is only rules that have to be followed. With tighter financial regulation the policy of "pathway to home ownership" would have never taken the path it did. Besides it was the private sector that created the mortgage products and exotic options that nearly destroyed the system. The problem with the last crisis was not the Government imposing socialism (a lot of people made a lot of wealth under that policy), it is actually the exact opposite, the government should have created a stronger framework for the financial system. The government did not fall asleep at the wheel it handed the wheel over a drunk drive (the private sector) who ran us off the road. Even a blind man could see that the pendulum would swing in the opposite direction and that the government would impose more rules, some would say excessive rules.

 

People have always been ******ed.

Now they have the interwebs to amplify their views.

Take that to the bank for starters.

 

They fight less often, so their fights are built up for longer, then they get remembered for losing since they don't fight fifty more times or more in their career to cover it back up.

 

Classic ******* response. Instead of coming back with an educated reply you spew some dumb ass **** and still don't answer the question.:-(

 

So I'm the only one who has a serious problem with using Rocky as an example of a large and exclusive column of wins belying a fighter who is "not among the best"? Obviously Marciano would be no less great if he had one loss in his career (or five) - but just because his greatness isn't predicated on being undefeated doesn't mean he's a good example to lump in with Calzaghe or John, or Valuev of a few years ago.

 

Valuev was undefeated in his prime!

 

I don't want to **** on Mayweather because he is a great fighter but I think the younger fans are viewing everything through this prism. I'll leave that aside for right now.

Yes, you are right, people forget its not the record, its the drama and the emotion fighters bring out in people. During great fights people remember where they were just as if it were a president being elected or assassinated. But it is about the "great fight' and you're right, people remember them and the fighters gain immortality. Someone had posted about the "poor matchmaking" that Arum did by giving Cotto nothing but a steady stream of great opposition. But I see it as great matchmaking. So many fighters would be so lucky to get the breaks Cotto got.

 

The age of the internet has bread a plethora of little haters just waiting to jump on anything they can use to tear down or degrade a fighter, in order to enhance the status of their favorites. Little Floyd is probably the only boxer shameful enough to do this aswell.

 

I know people do this to RJJ in overtime. It's very disrespectful and a smack in the face to all that a fighter accomplished when they were prime. Some idiot on this forum, actually a couple of them were saying that RJJ wasnt a ATG because of how he is now, getting ko'd and losing to anyone.

 

I agree.

 

I know a few cute girls with nice tities that want to get boob jobs?, nice b\c cups that want dd's for some ****ed up reason?

I think these days it is all about perfection etc..., that and the fighters want to make the most money with the least risk, which I can't blame them. But boxing has shrunk over the years and there only enough big money for a few fighters, so everyone looks at the loses.

On the other hand I don't think that they think this way about loses in regards to the UFC etc...

 

nice thread and nice inputs guys.

i think the media and money are the two great contributing factors for this.
as well as the way how fighters fought today. the frequency of fights nowadays is so much different compare before, that is why people (especially casual fans and nuthuggers) mostly remembers the fighter's defeats than his great wins.