Why are top boxers not forced to face each other on a regular basis?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by larryx2012, Feb 23, 2021.

  1. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

    May 24, 2012
    Why are we constantly getting mismatches and the rare good fight has to be "marinated" ? seems like regular decent fights are now treated like superfights..
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  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 29, 2012
    Who's going to force them? So long as there isn't ONE boxing org, they are going to fight when and who they want.
    You are right about decent fights being treated as super fights. The ONLY guys who should be on actual PPV are Canelo and Pac. Of course DAZN sort of changes things. ESjr being on PPV is a joke. Says more about why boxing is declining than anything.
  3. Boomstick

    Boomstick Member Full Member

    Nov 23, 2020
    Something needs to be in place to compel the alphabet orgs to unify every 2 years or so. That way the sport sort of drives itself forward.

    Right now the sport is driven and monopolized by promoters whose interests are in dragging out a fighter’s earning ability, and cashing them out when they have reached their earning limit. Meaning, the way things are benefits the promoters and it won’t change unless something forces them to.
  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 29, 2012
    Exactly. It's much too lucrative for the ABC's to form any sort of unity within their organizations. Boxing, as a sport, is still the wild west.
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  5. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Member Full Member

    Oct 22, 2020
    The orgs should push for a unified heavyweight champion at the least, it may in the long run be in their best interests.
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  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 The Original 101.3 Full Member

    Mar 17, 2018
    How so?
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  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 29, 2012
    The ABC orgs stand to lose millions of dollars on a unified champion. That's the sole reason they will never form one governing body.
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt ESB's own bitchy old Capote-cum-Runyon Full Member

    Nov 30, 2006
    Because... capitalism?
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  9. miniq

    miniq Big Stiff Idiot Full Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    In the amatuer system you're pretty destined to fight whoever they put in front of you

    Pro game is different, suddenly $$$ is the biggest factor & you have to be managed. Even if you want to get thrown in the deep end it isn't going to happen quickly unless there is good reason for it.

    R.Garcia will probably not form any kind of legacy but he will have made millions & retire young untouched.

    Crawford is going to retire with a resume that is sub-par for a man of his caliber.

    Look at all the top earners right now & previously, was the path easy for them? nope. Floyd, Pac, Fury, AJ. You know how many quality boxers barely make a buck? It's good that Fury gives people like Schwarz & Wallin a paycheck instead of the recycled has beens.
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  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Active Member Full Member

    Jan 21, 2015
    The only way it will happen is if, for example, the U.S. passed a law creating a national combat sports commission. That commission could issue its own belts and rankings. Wouldn't stop the orgs from going outside the U.S., of course, but it would help.
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  11. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Member Full Member

    Oct 22, 2020
    Its not a guarantee, but a unified heavyweight champion can be a big draw. A big draw means bigger sanctioning fees. You also can get more eyes on boxing, which could bring in new fans, new fans who get eyes on your other Champions and then maybe they become bigger draws.

    I doubt they would evet want to do this for other divisions for an extended period of time (unless that guy was a big draw ala May, Pac, Canelo)
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  12. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Dec 20, 2006
    ABC sanctioning bodies + teams protecting their potential $$$. Unless that changes nothing else will
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  13. Mickea4

    Mickea4 Member Full Member

    Aug 22, 2018
    I see what you're saying but is a unified champion fighting twice a year worth as much as 2,3 or 4 heavyweight champions fighting twice a year? Even if the sanctioning fees per fight are lower , the sheer quantity of fights outweighs the benefits of a unified champ, plus even if the governing bodies kept their sanctioning fees at the same level they are at now, a unified champion has to pay out 4x sanctioning fees, which greatly reduces the amount of money the boxer gets, so there's nothing in it for them - having one belt, Fury - as an example - can get a great payday, having all the belts his purse will be roughly the same, maybe slightly higher, but his sanctioning fees will be quadrupled

    Only the fans win by having a unified champ, and promoters and sanctioning bodies don't care about fans
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  14. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jan 5, 2017
    the biggest problem (apart from the multiple federations, which is the main problem) is when promoters put their own $$$ gain ahead of their fighter's career.
    if they have a belt, there's a lot of money to be made by milking it, especially if you keep your 0.
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    What do you mean when you say ''top''? Because ''top'' could be the ''top'' earners in the sport

    Fighters who are at the ''top'' but not necessarily the best in their weight class

    ''Top'' in terms of popularity

    Or ''top'' as in HWs as that weight class is literally right at the ''top'' both literally and figuratively because it's also the sport's glamour division which I might add is dominated with an iron fist by the warriors from the tiny island of GB with its minuscule population.

    Top of the morning to ya
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