Why are you against Olympic style blood testing?

If that's the case. The reason Roger Mayweather wanted Pac to be subjected to Olympic style drug testing is because of A-side meth. He said that Olympic style drug testing will pick it up.

How's that for Roger's reasoning.

 

Exactly...:good Hence the even playing field... Now your starting to see the whole purpose in the request.

 

don't give floyd any idea. he would probably require pacquiao and any of his future opponent a "bullet test" to see if they are really on A-side meth. LMAO

 

I've never emphasized weight gain into the equation Puga, dont get it twisted.

Pac has certainly gone up several weight classes, 9 of them since he first won a title in his early 20's.......

......but thats beside the point I'm making here.......

At 130 lbs Pac was fighting fighters at his weight range while climbing the ring......JMM for example......Pac entered the ring at 144 lbs, but JMM was only 3 lbs off of that at 141 lbs, thats comparable.

Now that Pac is at Welter, he's climbing the ring at about 148 lbs, but his opposition is climbing the ring 8-10 lbs heavier, and I'm talking specifically about Miguel Cotto who usually is a juniormiddleweight when he climbs the ring.

So this mumbo jumbo that Pac was draining himself is bull.......IF Pac was draining himself so was JMM (only a 3 lbs difference in the ring )
I think Marquez actually outweighed Pac in the ring when they fought at 126 lbs. not sure but they were right there pretty comparable in both their fights.

The red flag alert is not so much the gain in weight from 130 lbs to 147 lbs, but the way he's gotten physically strong enough to take a solid very strong Welter who is outweighing Pac significantly in the ring, and trounce him......

 

i'm just laughing at where all these started from. first it was from foyds sr. and now its roger. so we really have to believe in any of them? A-side meth is just a parody on how outrageous these accusations are.

i support clean boxers but olympic style blood testing is not the only way to go. they can take it one step at a time and make plans that are not too drastic. as i said earlier, change first their policy to a random urine test and if they can catch many boxers, they had to implement a stricter one. even pro baseball has to make a pilot test program before launching a complete revision of testing policy. they had to make a study first on the feasibility and the effectiveness of each test. besides if floyd and GBP are relly into it, they should be lobying NSAC for it already. is there such a request for major change already or are they contented that it is only happening in floyd's fights?

 

Like a true Pac fan... You are messing time lines up. Was that said BEFORE or AFTER the fight fell through?

Anyway, let's give you that. Cool. Roger said that. Now let's hold everything Roach's dumb but said up to the light? Roger and Roach are NOT the guys negotiating contracts. Honestly, the only people we can take seriously are Arum and Ellerbe (and Schaefer). We can also just observe the words and actions of Mayweather and Manny.

What did that observation say? Manny is scared of that test!

 

so give me a conclusive and scientific study that these PEDs can help pac to have a better beard? vargas certainly cannot get it's assumed benefits when he faced oscar.

 

Now you want to run along in a different tangent and debate about chin issues........:-nut


I really dont want to get into an aspect of debate that is certain to lead to nowhere........Pac has shown to have a good ***** all along.......but I would think that if a fighter physically strenghthens himself, he's also helping his cause to be able to take a good shot.

If you train your core base to be nice and strong, most fighter can take a good shot because of it.

 

It wouldn't be his beard. It would be his stamina that would allow him to continue to defend against, react to, and roll with punches in later rounds.

After about 4 rounds stamina is what gets you KTFO. By the time you do all those rounds you start to get sloppy and/or even get a strange death wish to "finish it". Go to your boxing gym and you will know. :bbb

 

Some people here are stupid...

They have a mind set of you are proven guilty unless you can prove you are innocent! :rofl

Since they can't prove anything that pac is on illegal drugs they turned the table around! he is guilty unless he can prove himself innocent!

:roflsmoke

 

not actually a debate but a real and conclusive study that these PEDs will make you susceptive to blows and trauma. it's really unfair that you are accusing someone of taking these type of substance but you don'r know exactly what it will do for you.

ok heres an example. you suspect pac of taking PEDs in the cotto fight. but how about the time when pac moved up from 112 to 122 to 126 and 130. pac back then at 112 and early part of 122 was suspected of being chinny because he was always being knockdowned by punches including a type of jab. so what happened when he started showing some chin when he fought MAB, JMM and morales at these weights? do you think pac was on roids as early as back then?

 

You see the stupidity here? A testing protocol that is used and has been used for years is now... drastic? WTF? :rofl:rofl

I wonder if instant replay was used to see if fight ending cuts were caused by headbutts if it would be "drastic"? I know it is used in many professional sports, but hey we have to go slow here... Not like this is proven technology or protocol. :yep

These guys are from a different planet!